Problems with Hand gun Frame Purchase

[RLara]

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.a...80127&CAT=3168

[NoNOS67]

Your problem is likely that the frame you wish to purchase is not on the roster.

[Librarian]

Your problem is likely that the frame you wish to purchase is not on the roster.

... which is the case with all frames - there are only complete guns on the Roster. 'Ordinary' commercial sales must follow CA law, and handguns must be on the Roster.

In short, while you could conceivably buy a frame PPT, you won't be able to get one otherwise.

[SkyHawk]

Unless you are law enforcement or have parent/grandparent/child/grandchild who lives out of state and will give you one, you cannot import this frame into CA.

[djbooya]

If you were going to build an SSE2 compliant pistol with the frame I would argue it might be legal depending how DOES updated ruling on SHD comes up.

[Librarian]

If you were going to build an SSE2 compliant pistol with the frame I would argue it might be legal depending how DOES updated ruling on SHD comes up.

Now, if you would be so kind as to unpack the abbreviations and point to a source that explains what you just said, I would appreciate it.

[Quiet]

Unless you are law enforcement or have parent/grandparent/child/grandchild who lives out of state and will give you one, you cannot import this frame into CA.

What he said.

[djbooya]

Now, if you would be so kind as to unpack the abbreviations and point to a source that explains what you just said, I would appreciate it.

SSE2 reference: http://06-www.calguns.net/calgunforu....php?t=1024890

Tracy Rifle & Pistol created a single shot pistol from the ground up on a receiver that was never previously a semi-auto. That's where I saw the term SSE2 used. I can't find a readily available link of the new PC around what is an acceptable Single Shot Exempt pistol.

SHD = Safe Handgun Demo - it looks like DOJ may change their ruling on it being require for frames/receivers:
under section 4256 on page 6 of:

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/regs/text-regs.pdf

Also, if exempt from SHD that would be doable as well (CCW holders for instance).

This is where my theory arises from...so the frame/receiver in my reference coming from Lone Wolf in all likeliness didn't start as a semi-auto pistol. If it did then I would agree it wouldn't be possible.

[Quiet]

SSE2 reference: http://06-www.calguns.net/calgunforu....php?t=1024890

Tracy Rifle & Pistol created a single shot pistol from the ground up on a receiver that was never previously a semi-auto. That's where I saw the term SSE2 used. I can't find a readily available link of the new PC around what is an acceptable Single Shot Exempt pistol.

SHD = Safe Handgun Demo - it looks like DOJ may change their ruling on it being require for frames/receivers:
under section 4256 on page 6 of:

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/regs/text-regs.pdf

Also, if exempt from SHD that would be doable as well (CCW holders for instance).

This is where my theory arises from...so the frame/receiver in my reference coming from Lone Wolf in all likeliness didn't start as a semi-auto pistol. If it did then I would agree it wouldn't be possible.

In order to qualify for the "SSE2", it needs to be imported as a complete dimensionally compliant break-top/open barrel single-shot pistol that has never been semi-auto or as a complete dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol that has never been semi-auto. A receiver/frame does not qualify for that exemption.

[Librarian]

SSE2 reference: http://06-www.calguns.net/calgunforu....php?t=1024890

...

Thanks.

I just read that thread. I think I know less now than before I did that.

[Baboosh]

Well if you buy a bare frame it was never a semi auto pistol so technically it can be built by an 07 FFL into a single shot pistol.

Hard part is finding a break top/bolt action Glock slide.

[djbooya]

In order to qualify for the "SSE2", it needs to be imported as a complete dimensionally compliant break-top/open barrel single-shot pistol that has never been semi-auto or as a complete dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistol that has never been semi-auto. A receiver/frame does not qualify for that exemption.

I don't agree.. otherwise, TRAP couldn't make a single shot AR pistol that is considered "SSE2" compliant.. none of those receivers were dimensionally compliant when imported/shipped into CA...

What if that's what I wanted to build from a frame?

[Baboosh]

Don't they only need to SSE2 Complaint shipping into the state if the FFL is an 01? If an 07 they can manufacture the pistol to SSE2 specs from a bare receiver as long it was never a rifle nor a semi auto.

[kemasa]

There can also be issues when you manufacture a firearm in CA. There is a permit which I have heard of, yet it is not on the CA DOJ web page and I recall a lock requirement as well.

[Quiet]

I don't agree.. otherwise, TRAP couldn't make a single shot AR pistol that is considered "SSE2" compliant.. none of those receivers were dimensionally compliant when imported/shipped into CA...

What if that's what I wanted to build from a frame?

Are you licensed as a Type 07-FFL?
If you are, then you can legally do this (manufacturing a receiver into a handgun). Just like TARP.