FDE Glock 17 Gen 3

[dog]

Is this considered to be on the roster?

[jrara]

Had this same issue with DOJ for a G19,

Called them about it and they said Only Black or the OD version is allowed for sale.

[Librarian]

Guns must be specifically added to the Roster - nothing is 'considered to be' on it.

See also the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Th...n_List#Process

[r6533]

Hello,

Why wouldn't a dealer being able to transfer a G17 Gen 3 FDE based on the following? Specifically under 32030(a)(1) since the only difference is the frame color? (2) thru (4) do not apply.

32030 (was 12131.5.)
(a) A firearm shall be deemed to satisfy the requirements of
subdivision (a) of Section 32015 if another firearm made by
the same manufacturer is already listed and the unlisted
firearm differs from the listed firearm only in one or more of
the following features:
(1) Finish, including, but not limited to, bluing,
chrome-plating, oiling, or engraving.
(2) The material from which the grips are made.
(3) The shape or texture of the grips, so long as the
difference in grip shape or texture does not in any way alter
the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the
magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the
components of the firing mechanism of the firearm.
(4) Any other purely cosmetic feature that does not in any
way alter the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of
the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the
components of the firing mechanism of the firearm.

[Quiet]

Hello,

Why wouldn't a dealer being able to transfer a G17 Gen 3 FDE based on the following? Specifically under 32030(a)(1) since the only difference is the frame color?

Because of PC 32030(b).

Only a manufacturer can use PC 32030(a) to get a similar pistol listed on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.

The FDE Glock series are a limited edition run done for a specific distributor, which is why Glock has chosen not to use PC 32030(a) to get the FDE Glocks listed onto the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.

In the past; Glock has used PC 32030(a) to get the OD, SF, and RTF2 Glocks listed onto the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale.


Penal Code 32030
(a) A firearm shall be deemed to satisfy the requirements of subdivision (a) of Section 32015 if another firearm made by the same manufacturer is already listed and the unlisted firearm differs from the listed firearm only in one or more of the following features:
(1) Finish, including, but not limited to, bluing, chrome-plating, oiling, or engraving.
(2) The material from which the grips are made.
(3) The shape or texture of the grips, so long as the difference in grip shape or texture does not in any way alter the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the components of the firing mechanism of the firearm.
(4) Any other purely cosmetic feature that does not in any way alter the dimensions, material, linkage, or functioning of the magazine well, the barrel, the chamber, or any of the components of the firing mechanism of the firearm.
(b) Any manufacturer seeking to have a firearm listed under this section shall provide to the Department of Justice all of the following:
(1) The model designation of the listed firearm.
(2) The model designation of each firearm that the manufacturer seeks to have listed under this section.
(3) A statement, under oath, that each unlisted firearm for which listing is sought differs from the listed firearm only in one or more of the ways identified in subdivision (a) and is in all other respects identical to the listed firearm.
(c) The department may, in its discretion and at any time, require a manufacturer to provide to the department any model for which listing is sought under this section, to determine whether the model complies with the requirements of this section.

[r6533]

Thank you Librarian and Quiet,

A CA DOJ Supervisor confirmed what you had shared.