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  • Kokopelli
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 3387

    Didaktikos

    This is a question about church elders and if they must be able to teach & preach from the pulpit.

    Didaktikos - Strongs Number G1317
    translations: Apt to teach (KJV)

    1 Timothy 3:2 - So an elder must be a man whose life is above reproach. He must be faithful to his wife. He must exercise self-control, live wisely, and have a good reputation. He must enjoy having guests in his home, and he must be able to teach.
    2 Timothy 2:24 - A servant of the Lord must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone, be able to teach, and be patient with difficult people.
    In the two verses above, elders attributes are listed as;
    Above reproach
    Faithful
    Self control
    Live wisely
    Good reputation
    Enjoy guests
    Not quarrelsome
    Kindness
    Patient


    But added to these attributes, an ability is listed: The ability to teach. Should ability to teach be seen as an attribute or an ability? It almost appears non sequitur. As if describing someone who is friendly, kind, compassionate... and he welds.

    Does teach for a church elder mean from the pulpit, or to seven year olds in Sunday school? Do your church elders preach or teach from the pulpit?

    REFERENCES:

    Able to teach (1317) didaktikos https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/...icle&aid=33451

    What does didaktikos mean in 1 Tim 3:2 and 2 Tim 2:24?
    1 Timothy 3:2 and 2 Timothy 2:24 contains a rare Greek word, didaktikos. Does it mean "able to teach" or "teachable"?
    If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth. - Ronald Reagan
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    RAMCLAP
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 2868

    Short answer... Yes.
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    • #3
      Garand Hunter
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 2771

      The requirements listed go beyond " in church " to everyday life issues as well.

      Psalm 1

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        Kokopelli
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 3387

        Originally posted by RAMCLAP
        Short answer... Yes.
        Thanks. Do all the elders at your church teach from the pulpit?
        If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth. - Ronald Reagan

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        • #5
          Kokopelli
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 3387

          Originally posted by Garand Hunter
          The requirements listed go beyond " in church " to everyday life issues as well.

          Psalm 1
          Thank you. Do all the elders at your church teach?
          If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth. - Ronald Reagan

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          • #6
            2761377
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2013
            • 2063

            the Scriptural verse referred to is talking about a bishop.

            Bishops are an order of magnitude greater than elders.
            MAGA

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            • #7
              RAMCLAP
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 2868

              Originally posted by Kokopelli
              Thanks. Do all the elders at your church teach from the pulpit?
              No. Most teach small groups and counceling. But can teach from the pulpit.
              Psalm 103
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                RAMCLAP
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                • Nov 2012
                • 2868

                Originally posted by 2761377
                the Scriptural verse referred to is talking about a bishop.

                Bishops are an order of magnitude greater than elders.
                This is not correct. The word is literally the same office. It came to mean your definition later. Bishop, Pastor, Elder are all the same.
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                • #9
                  Barang
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 12136

                  just imagine if politicians were held to this standard but we have low information voters voting them in line with their values.

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                    Garand Hunter
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 2771

                    Correct RAMCLAP !

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                    • #11
                      Garand Hunter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 2771

                      Where I go to church they can when asked by the pastor and the other elders.

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                      • #12
                        eta34
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2432

                        Why does someone always have to bring politics into these discussions? OP asks about elders and someone steers to politics. Lame.

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                        • #13
                          Barang
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 12136

                          Originally posted by eta34
                          Why does someone always have to bring politics into these discussions? OP asks about elders and someone steers to politics. Lame.
                          I?m sorry for offending you.

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                          • #14
                            Kokopelli
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 3387

                            To clarify my question, we have an elder board. All but one of them would be able to fill the pulpit on Sunday morning, in the pastors absence, with some planning. This one just does not have the gift of teaching that the pastor has. So the question of 1 Timothy 3:2 came up. (Elder must be able to teach.)

                            However, the elder has filled in and taught Sunday school class when the leader is out. He teaches individuals Biblical truth to individuals. He teaches the worship team music and owns a music store where he teaches students to play instruments and how to sing. But teaching a sermon from the pulpit? Probably not the right guy for the job.

                            1 Timothy 3:2 - So an elder must be a man whose life is above reproach. He must be faithful to his wife. He must exercise self-control, live wisely, and have a good reputation. He must enjoy having guests in his home, and he must be able to teach.
                            Applying 1 Timothy 3:2 literally, we could say that an elder must be married. One elder is not married. Should both of these elders be removed from office?
                            If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth. - Ronald Reagan

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                            • #15
                              Garand Hunter
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 2771

                              NO, let them use their God given gifts !

                              Psalm 1

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