Siege of Jerusalem 70AD

[SWalt]

Thought I post this here since its relevant today (who land is it?) and for Christianity as a whole.
The beginning of the Jewish Diaspora when Rome completely crushed the Jews and destroyed the Temple. The video covers how long it took and how brutal it was. Its long (45 minutes) but worth it, very well done if you want a deeper understanding of what happened.

https://youtu.be/y741QbT1YEo?si=KWHfO8uMeLgGMfL5

[RAMCLAP]

If people understood this they would understand the Olivet Discourse and maybe a lot of Dispy nonsense would end.

[SWalt]

Just knowing history in general is good. Knowing this about the Jews gives a good idea of why they were in Europe and other countries. Just the fact the Jews are still around today speaks volumes. Other than Hinduism the religions of the ancient world are pretty much gone. And Hindus weren't crushed and chased out of their land unless you count Muslim Pakistan.

[2761377]

Acts 17:11-21

11 The people of Berea were more open-minded than the people of Thessalonica. They were very willing to receive God's message, and every day they carefully examined the Scriptures to see if what Paul said was true.
12 Many of them became believers, and quite a number of them were prominent Greek men and women.
13 But when the Jews in Thessalonica found out that Paul was also spreading God's word in Berea, they went there to upset and confuse the people

[Subotai]

So...where were the Palestinians?

[Barang]

So...where were the Palestinians?

exactly!

[2761377]

Judea become the Roman province Syria Palaestina in AD132.
The people were the gentiles who did not revolt, and early Christians.

[CVShooter]

Thought I post this here since its relevant today (who land is it?) and for Christianity as a whole.
The beginning of the Jewish Diaspora when Rome completely crushed the Jews and destroyed the Temple. The video covers how long it took and how brutal it was. Its long (45 minutes) but worth it, very well done if you want a deeper understanding of what happened.




https://youtu.be/y741QbT1YEo?si=KWHfO8uMeLgGMfL5

Cool video. Point of consideration. The diaspora after the Roman sacking of Jerusalem was roughly the third major diaspora event. The first was under Assyria, second was Babylon. Then the Persians took over the Babylon &, under Darius, allowed the elites to go back to rebuild their homelands & stay. Plenty remained abroad for several hundred years, with communities all along the Mediterranean & Eastward under the Greek occupation. Among the big ones were Alexandria & several cities in Asia Minor. The Greeks "defiled" the temple by sacrificing a pig on the altar. Some say it was an attempt of peace -- sharing gods was a standard practice for the Greeks and the Romans. But it wasn't received well, obviously. The Maccabean revolt and subsequent temple purification is what Hanukkah is about. All that was before the Roman empire. Obviously, the sacking of Jerusalem by Rome was an event in itself. But it was among many diaspora events over about 600 years.

What a lot of people fail to realize is just how heated everything was in the few decades before Jerusalem was sacked. It was that ultra-heated environment where Judeans were angry, impoverished, ready to rebel as soon as they could organize themselves, when one particular young Jewish boy started gathering a crowd. He was a no-name from a backwater town to the north. He was one among scores of people hopelessly trying to organize against the ruling powers, including Rome. Most of his chatter was internal (among the Jews) & religious in nature. But he also started talking smack against the ruling elites and even threw in some stuff about taking back the throne of David. It is exactly that kind of talk that gets Rome's attention -- something neither the Sadducees nor the Pharisees wanted any part of. For the good of the people, they had to shut him up. Then, that young man made a spectacle of himself by parading himself on a donkey through the eastern gate (donkeys were ridden by royalty -- commoners walked). What was he trying to do? Get everybody killed? There are consequences to that kind of nonsense. Attracting the attention of Rome was in nobody's interests. So, yea, let him be crucified and hope that people can calm down before things got ugly.

So, to me, the sacking of Rome was proof that, to a degree, the Pharisees and Sadducees were right. It probably would have happened sooner if they had given Jesus of Nazareth any leeway to grow his base of followers. Rome tolerated a lot of craziness -- it was a very permissive culture. But insurrection was strictly punished.

[CVShooter]

So...where were the Palestinians?

Jesus was a Palestinian Jew. Or maybe a Jewish Palestinian... Palestine is a more modern word, as is Jew. Ethnically, they are the same -- both are Semitic. Jesus and all his ancestors are dead. He left no progeny (that we know of). But if he did, those descendants would have lived under Ottoman rule and would speak Arabic. Many would have converted to Islam. You'd call them Palestinians today.

[CVShooter]

Just knowing history in general is good. Knowing this about the Jews gives a good idea of why they were in Europe and other countries. Just the fact the Jews are still around today speaks volumes. Other than Hinduism the religions of the ancient world are pretty much gone. And Hindus weren't crushed and chased out of their land unless you count Muslim Pakistan.

To me, Judaism is strange. I don't get it. But I respect it and I respect that it's a big part of a lot of people's history. One of the features of Judaism that I most respect is just how adaptable it is. Putting the fundamentalists (Orthodox) aside as we all should since they're in the minority, the Rabbinical traditions & interpretations are extremely adaptable and constantly evolving. That's where a lot of religions get lost -- being stuck in the past rather than evolving as everything on earth must do to survive. I think it's pretty cool. American Christians can learn a lot there. At least the old dude sitting in the Vatican is working on that, to some degree. Agree or disagree, he's trying.

[2761377]

The Jews killed Jesus. It's more 19th century revisionism to claim the Romans did it.
Pilate literally washed his hands of the whole affair. The crucifixion was to satisfy the Jewish mob.

[Garand Hunter]

#9 CVShooter MALARKY !

Psalm 1

[RAMCLAP]

To me, Judaism is strange. I don't get it. But I respect it and I respect that it's a big part of a lot of people's history. One of the features of Judaism that I most respect is just how adaptable it is. Putting the fundamentalists (Orthodox) aside as we all should since they're in the minority, the Rabbinical traditions & interpretations are extremely adaptable and constantly evolving. That's where a lot of religions get lost -- being stuck in the past rather than evolving as everything on earth must do to survive. I think it's pretty cool. American Christians can learn a lot there. At least the old dude sitting in the Vatican is working on that, to some degree. Agree or disagree, he's trying.

Compromising the Gospel is not trying. It's quitting.

[Barang]

The Jews killed Jesus. It's more 19th century revisionism to claim the Romans did it.
Pilate literally washed his hands of the whole affair. The crucifixion was to satisfy the Jewish mob.

they asked for his death and the romans executed him.

in spiritual context, we all (our sin) killed Jesus. He came willingly to sacrifice His life to save (us from hell) those who will accept Him as their Lord and Savior.

[Garand Hunter]

Ditto Barang.

Psalm 1