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  • CVShooter
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2017
    • 1234

    Non-Christians in this Forum?

    Checking to see if any other non-Christians are in the room. I don't expect to see a majority here by any stretch but just curious to see what other religious traditions or perspectives might be represented.

    I'll start -- I loosely attend a UU Church. Philosophically, probably Stoic. Spiritually, probably animist. But I won't take either too seriously.
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    GlockN'Roll
    Veteran Member
    • May 2015
    • 3773

    You define yourself by what you are not?

    So are you also a non-muslim or a non-hindu?

    Animism?
    Real Californian...

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    • #3
      Barang
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2013
      • 13373

      i think we have two buddhists here. cannot remember their names at the moment.

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      • #4
        sonofeugene
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 4672

        Raised Catholic. Left it all behind in high school. Now nearly 69. Don't regret it one bit. Religion is not necessary to live a good and proper life. In my case, I found religion to be way, way too encumbering and full of fanciful fairy tails that one is "required" to believe. Don't need that.
        Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

        A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

        Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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        • #5
          damon1272
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 4857

          Then I would ask, as a non believer in anything would you bother coming into this forum? Now Mossy is Buddhist and though I don’t agree, I understand him having an option and a point to offer as he does believe in something. But for non believers in anything why bother engaging?

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          • #6
            Dirtlaw
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Apr 2018
            • 3480

            Hey non-believers ... let's talk. My assignment is to change your mind. It's a sucky job, but someone has to do it.

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            • #7
              Garand Hunter
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 2786

              I definitely do not qualify as non Christian, but if you see yourself that way, so be it. Full Gospel used to be called Pentecostal red neck type believer. But if others are not, ok, to each his/her own. The Almighty will certainly sort it all out when we give account personally to Him.

              Psalm 1

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              • #8
                sonofeugene
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 4672

                Though I generally don't come in here, I have in the past.

                I just don't believe Jesus was anything more than a radical Jew who happened to have a faith built up around him. Frankly, I think he'd be embarrassed if he were to come back today.

                There's no reason why an atheist or agnostic can't be just as good as a Christian, Jew, Buddhist, etc. It's just that I don't espouse things I can't prove. And all faiths, at their cores, pretty much say the same thing anyway. I prefer my "faith" without the trappings and embellishments. I also can't say there is or isn't a god. Probably not. But a small "maybe". Or not.

                And the concepts of heaven and hell are exactly that....concepts. And people saying that they do exist because it's written in the bible is zero proof in my book. The bible was written by men, mostly 300 years after Jesus lived. And much was left out when it was first codified.
                Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

                Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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                • #9
                  SelfGovernor
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 351

                  Originally posted by sonofeugene
                  The bible was written by men, mostly 300 years after Jesus lived. And much was left out when it was first codified.
                  Most of the Bible ("Old Testament") Dates from ~200 BCE to the 1st century. These are part of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The more recent ("New Testament") dates from the 1st to 4th century. The oldest mostly complete Christian Bible is the Codex Sinaiticus which dates to the 300's. There is extensive evidence that the texts are all copies and the originals were recorded close to the time the events occurred.

                  In addition, there are the ante-Nicene writings and commentaries which were written around 100 to 325.

                  SG
                  ... that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

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                  • #10
                    Sailormilan2
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 3484

                    I spent most of my life in a cult that claimed to be Christian. I'm pretty much out of it now. I come here to learn different things, though some of them I sometimes have difficulty with due to my background.

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                    • #11
                      RIFLERACK31
                      Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 115

                      Originally posted by Sailormilan2
                      I spent most of my life in a cult that claimed to be Christian. I'm pretty much out of it now. I come here to learn different things, though some of them I sometimes have difficulty with due to my background.
                      Was it a religion that you thought was a cult, or is it legally a cult?
                      The 2nd amendment was ment to if necessary revolt against a tyranntical government. If you are not willing to stand up for your freedoms, then you have no pot to piss in. There is zero reason to having 2nd amendment rights if you do not intend to use it like it was intended to be used by Americas founders.

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                      • #12
                        RIFLERACK31
                        Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 115

                        Originally posted by sonofeugene
                        Raised Catholic. Left it all behind in high school. Now nearly 69. Don't regret it one bit. Religion is not necessary to live a good and proper life. In my case, I found religion to be way, way too encumbering and full of fanciful fairy tails that one is "required" to believe. Don't need that.
                        My grandfather was a preacher of a church for 40 years. And he told me ounce, (there is no truth in the courthouse, and there is no truth in the church buildings. Because both end up being run by man.) I wouldnt say religion is totally unnecessary. But i think his words are true.
                        The 2nd amendment was ment to if necessary revolt against a tyranntical government. If you are not willing to stand up for your freedoms, then you have no pot to piss in. There is zero reason to having 2nd amendment rights if you do not intend to use it like it was intended to be used by Americas founders.

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                        • #13
                          tsmithson
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 1580

                          Your stepped into deep water my friend.

                          The day will come when every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Is The Christ.

                          Till then my friend.

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                          • #14
                            sonofeugene
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 4672

                            Originally posted by SelfGovernor
                            Most of the Bible ("Old Testament") Dates from ~200 BCE to the 1st century. These are part of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The more recent ("New Testament") dates from the 1st to 4th century. The oldest mostly complete Christian Bible is the Codex Sinaiticus which dates to the 300's. There is extensive evidence that the texts are all copies and the originals were recorded close to the time the events occurred.

                            In addition, there are the ante-Nicene writings and commentaries which were written around 100 to 325.

                            SG
                            Ah, yes, I forgot about the Old Testament. My remarks were regarding the new.
                            Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                            A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

                            Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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                            • #15
                              sonofeugene
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 4672

                              Originally posted by tsmithson
                              Your stepped into deep water my friend.

                              The day will come when every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Is The Christ.

                              Till then my friend.
                              That's what you believe. That doesn't make it true.
                              Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                              A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

                              Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhaur

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