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  • gdr_11
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 2545

    Declining Christian Membership Here?

    I have been a member here since 2007, although I changed my membership once and rejoined in 2012. In any case, it seems like 10 years ago there were a lot more members who were openly Christian and it showed up in the threads on a lot of different subjects.

    Now, the believers seem to be in the minority here or perhaps they are not as vocal as before. In any case, I felt this so much that on Easter Sunday I posted my annual He Is Risen thread in thus sub forum instead of Off Topic.

    Maybe I am over sensitive, but the amount of anti-Christian sentiment in many if the threads does seem to be growing and I wondered if others had similar observations.
    In an emergency, always dial 1911.
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    Red-Osier
    Doesn't Abide
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2015
    • 12284

    Originally posted by gdr_11
    I have been a member here since 2007, although I changed my membership once and rejoined in 2012. In any case, it seems like 10 years ago there were a lot more members who were openly Christian and it showed up in the threads on a lot of different subjects.

    Now, the believers seem to be in the minority here or perhaps they are not as vocal as before. In any case, I felt this so much that on Easter Sunday I posted my annual He Is Risen thread in thus sub forum instead of Off Topic.

    Maybe I am over sensitive, but the amount of anti-Christian sentiment in many if the threads does seem to be growing and I wondered if others had similar observations.
    I see it as well.
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    • #3
      GlockN'Roll
      Veteran Member
      • May 2015
      • 3693

      As the older guys die off, they are replaced by younger generations which are not merely agnostic, but openly hostile to Christianity.

      I see it in one in my nephews and his wife.

      They are both cool with atheists, muslims, hindus and Buddhists, but Christians are the root of all evil in the world...

      It seems to come from the media and the schools especially.
      Real Californian...

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      • #4
        Dirtlaw
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Apr 2018
        • 3480

        Should be of no surprise. The Bible speaks of it happening. Satan seems to be particularly active.

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        • #5
          Dano3467
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2013
          • 7381

          ^^^

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          • #6
            gdr_11
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 2545

            Yes, this is definitely a sign of the times and a type of dress rehearsal for things to come. Look at how quickly the Church has been suppressed and moved to the sidelines; something that would have been impossible 20 years ago.
            In an emergency, always dial 1911.

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            • #7
              357manny
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2016
              • 1676

              The Church has come under fire, this is nothing new. There also have been many scandals uncovered over the years, this is also nothing new.

              For myself, I grew apathetic towards the Church after high school--it wasn't until my own daughter was born, which triggered many events to bring me back to the Lord.

              Speaking of events--yes, Satan is definitely claiming his own. So much "cooler" to be non- or anti-Christian.

              The exchange between Pastor Graham's Samaritan Purse and the anti-Christian DeBlasio is particularly vicious:

              Last month, Rev. Franklin Graham recruited 72 doctors, nurses and other medical personnel for Samaritan's Purse, an evangelical humanitarian group, to help create a 68-bed facility in Central Park. The venture is operated in partnership with New York’s Mount Sinai Health System.

              Most New Yorkers were grateful for Graham’s generosity and Christian concern. But not all.

              Critics like playwright Paul Rudnick, State Senator Brad Hoylman and Mayor Bill DeBlasio attacked Graham for his Christian desire to help those in need.

              Rudnick said Graham was a “vicious homophobe.” Hoylman called the pastor a “notorious anti-gay bigot.” De Blasio insisted in his faux fury that, “We’re going to send over people from the Mayor’s Office to monitor” the pop-up hospital.


              “I said immediately to my team that we had to find out exactly what was happening. Was there going to be an approach that was truly consistent with the values and the laws in New York City, that everyone would be served and served equally?”

              De Blasio also threatened to “permanently” shut down any church that stays open during this crisis. Of course, such a threat is unconstitutional. However, though he said he has proof that some ultra-Orthodox synagogues are violating the order, he never mentioned any specific Christians who are similarly violating the health guidelines.
              Last edited by 357manny; 04-16-2020, 6:27 AM.
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              • #8
                The War Wagon
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2011
                • 10294

                Originally posted by Dirtlaw
                Should be of no surprise. The Bible speaks of it happening. Satan seems to be particularly active.



                Jesus did PROMISE - it WOULD get worse... before it gets better.


                John 16: 33
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                • #9
                  Garand Hunter
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 2774

                  Not being on this site very long I don't see it much. And I am glad for this area of Calguns ! I learned years ago my views bother some folks and is somewhat acceptable by others, and if anyone disagrees, I tell them to help themselves.
                  In USA society in particular the libtard media and so called Hollywood denizens I see plenty of animus towards Christians for some years now. How many times have you been asked to pray for a person or persons who have shown a bad or hostile attitude toward you or your friends and then they need help beyond their understanding ? Every now and then I have seen this.

                  Keep the faith Bros

                  Psalm 1
                  Last edited by Garand Hunter; 04-16-2020, 9:20 AM. Reason: sentence structure

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                  • #10
                    Dave Hoback
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2015
                    • 656

                    I’m here. Always openly a Believer.

                    Dirtlaw said it first. Scripture tells us what we will see. Things will be like in Noah’s time. Which always makes me think, “man! Society during Noah’s days were worse??” It’s eye opening to think about.

                    But yes, the attack on Gods chosen is ever increasing. And to see non-believers spiritual blindness first hand is, in a bad way, AWW inspiring! Downright amazing.

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                    • #11
                      readysetgo
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 8689

                      Last edited by readysetgo; 04-16-2020, 9:56 AM.
                      Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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                      • #12
                        CVShooter
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 1234

                        If you want to understand why people might be hostile toward Christianity, ask them with sincerity and openness. Don't advise. Don't judge. Don't even comment and certainly don't argue or evangelize. Just listen. You'll learn a lot.

                        If you don't want to understand it but just commiserate with other like-minded people, then you're doing it well. I don't meant that in an insulting way as it's comforting to share & gripe a little as a group. But if your goal is to increase your knowledge and understanding, it's a poor way to achieve that goal.

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                        • #13
                          psssniper
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 3060

                          Originally posted by CVShooter
                          If you want to understand why people might be hostile toward Christianity, ask them with sincerity and openness. Don't advise. Don't judge. Don't even comment and certainly don't argue or evangelize. Just listen. You'll learn a lot.
                          Agreed and if they aren't seeing Christ in your life via your actions then you've already lost. It's a disputed St Francis attribution but here ya go "Witness for Christ each day, and if necessary use words" Note: this doesn't include arguing your christian sect/cults philosophy/theology.

                          Just for kicks its always fun to read the "One anothers"
                          "I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness; I love only that which they defend.
                          victus exaro somniculosus, somnus exaro ieiunium

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                          • #14
                            creampuff
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 3730

                            One of the reasons why I appreciate the gun community is there is the sense of government has overreached and we agree it has gone too far. Government is taken too far of a role in our lives.

                            One of the reasons why I shy away from the CG community and the libertarian side of politics is there is the sense of "God cannot tell me what to do" or "religion cannot tell me what to do". Although most here will probably agree that it is not "religion" that saves but our relationship of having Christ as our Savior that saves. BUT reaching that point where you know you need Christ to save you, is almost the polar opposite of the rugged individualism we appreciate on Calguns.

                            sorry that doesn't answer your original question. I agree I see less Christian membership. In fact if it weren't for our head Janitor's Christianity, I have a feeling we would be even more derided here for our believing in a "mythical" being.

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                            • #15
                              Dirtlaw
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 3480


                              Max Biesenthal, LCEF senior vice president – Ministry Support and conference emcee, challenged our common misconceptions about love and clarified the reality of true love in Christ.




                              Just met Max. He's a friend of one of my dearest brothers.

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