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  • #31
    mossy
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2007
    • 7319

    Originally posted by OHOD
    Here is interesting little tidbit...

    Buddha taught:
    "Consider others as yourself"

    Jesus taught:
    Treat others the same way you want them to treat you. Luk 6:31
    You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Mark 12:31

    Keep in mind that the Buddha lived about 250 years prior to Jesus. I think it is not that unusual for the Buddha to come up with his teaching. Both Jesus and Buddha could have certainly come up with the same teaching without being taught themselves.
    Here's a few more
    Turnin the other cheek
    Buddha
    "If anyone should give you a blow with his hand, with a stick, or with a knife, you should abandon any desires and utter no evil words." (Majjhima Nikaya 21:6)
    Jesus
    "If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also." (Luke 6:29)


    Helping others is cool
    Buddha
    "If you do not tend to one another, then who is there to tend you? Whoever would tend me, he should tend the sick." (Vinaya, Mahavagga 8:26.3)
    Jesus
    "Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me." (Matthew 25:45)

    Rich people ain't so cool
    Buddha
    "Let us live most happily, possessing nothing." (Dhammapada 15:4)
    Jesus
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    • #32
      Rizzo
      Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 444

      Originally posted by billvau
      Go above and see my biblical answers. You're criticizing without responding to the verses. And, remember 1 Cor. 4:6 - don't go beyond what is written in Scripture.

      Thanks.
      OK, I assume you are referring to Post #6 when you said:

      "Luke 2:41-52 tell the story of his trip to Jerusalem for the Passover when He was 12. His parents went every year, so they didn't go anywhere either. And 2:51-52 says He returned and continued to grow up in Nazareth."

      Which Bible are you getting that info?
      Here is a link to a comparison of what several Bibles (5 of them) have in that Chapter/Verse of Luke2:51-52:
      Now in those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that a census should be taken of the whole empire. This was the first census to take place while Quirinius was governor of Syria. And everyone went to his own town to register. So Joseph also went up from Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to the city of David called Bethlehem, since he was from the house and line of David.

      None of them say he continued to grow up in Nazareth.

      "And, remember 1 Cor. 4:6 - don't go beyond what is written in Scripture."

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      • #33
        Rizzo
        Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 444

        Originally posted by mossy
        Here's a few more
        Turnin the other cheek
        Buddha
        "If anyone should give you a blow with his hand, with a stick, or with a knife, you should abandon any desires and utter no evil words." (Majjhima Nikaya 21:6)
        Jesus
        "If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also." (Luke 6:29)


        Helping others is cool
        Buddha
        "If you do not tend to one another, then who is there to tend you? Whoever would tend me, he should tend the sick." (Vinaya, Mahavagga 8:26.3)
        Jesus
        "Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me." (Matthew 25:45)

        Rich people ain't so cool
        Buddha
        "Let us live most happily, possessing nothing." (Dhammapada 15:4)
        Jesus
        Interesting comparison.
        I do not have a parallel statement from Jesus on this but having read the story of Buddha I remember his saying:
        The root of all suffering is desire.

        Pretty profound I'd say.

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        • #34
          Alan Block
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 3090

          It's more likely Jesus took some ideas from Zoroastrians. He surely knew of them.

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          • #35
            damon1272
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 4857

            Interesting how you folks can comprehend He (Christ) was fully man but completely miss that He is God. Also you miss that Judaism and the law were around long before budda.

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            • #36
              WalterJones
              Member
              • Aug 2013
              • 278

              I'm a Christian, but I tend to keep a more open mind.

              Jesus was mortal for a period of time. Most likely constrained by certain laws of mortality. I think that this would have carried with it a less than perfect knowledge of his creation. Being inhibited by a mortal brain has to have some effect, afterall there's only so much info that ca be stored in synapses and I would have to think that creating a universe would fill up someones internal hard drive pretty quick.

              That being said, why wouldn't he want to travel and see his creation? Why not take a job on a caravan? Or hop in a boat? Or hoof it down in to Africa? Maybe play in the snow for a time in Siberia. Until his ministry began, was there anything preventing him from enjoying his creation for a couple of years here and there?

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              • #37
                eta34
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 2432

                ^ What? Is that a serious position?

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                • #38
                  OHOD
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11047

                  Originally posted by damon1272
                  Interesting how you folks can comprehend He (Christ) was fully man but completely miss that He is God. Also you miss that Judaism and the law were around long before budda.
                  When you say the law, are you talking about teachings by Jesus? Because we are talking about the bible mostly which is a record of his teachings and his life.
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                  • #39
                    mossy
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7319

                    Originally posted by damon1272
                    Interesting how you folks can comprehend He (Christ) was fully man but completely miss that He is God. Also you miss that Judaism and the law were around long before budda.
                    well see that's the thing, some people don't believe that God exists. so yeah i fully believe that a guy named Jesus existed but i do not believe he is God or by simple belief and acceptance of him grants one eternal salvation. same way you believe that the Buddha existed but don't believe his eightfold path is the way to salvation. same way as we both dont believe whatever the muslims think.

                    Originally posted by OHOD
                    When you say the law, are you talking about teachings by Jesus? Because we are talking about the bible mostly which is a record of his teachings and his life.
                    the jewish law predates jesus and christianity. i think it's called the Halakha or something like that.
                    Last edited by mossy; 04-16-2018, 9:52 AM.
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                    • #40
                      Charlie_Bravo
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2018
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                      • #41
                        dk94044
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 915

                        One main difference is that most religions you have to work and obtain the Nirvana, Enlightenment, etc to get to the higher or heavenly state.
                        In Christianity, the salvation state is an accepted gift of love that is given by God, but not deserved or worked for in which Jesus, his son took on the punishment as the ultimate blood sacrifice to atone for our bad behavior, so we could have a relationship with God.

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                        • #42
                          OHOD
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11047

                          Originally posted by dk94044
                          One main difference is that most religions you have to work and obtain the Nirvana, Enlightenment, etc to get to the higher or heavenly state.
                          In Christianity, the salvation state is an accepted gift of love that is given by God, but not deserved or worked for in which Jesus, his son took on the punishment as the ultimate blood sacrifice to atone for our bad behavior, so we could have a relationship with God.
                          So your saying that there is a similarity in Buddhism, Christianity, Judiasim, Islam and other faiths....that they all propose that you go to a higher state as long as you believe and have faith in your religion.

                          I think I got that right...
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                          • #43
                            mossy
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 7319

                            Originally posted by OHOD
                            So your saying that there is a similarity in Buddhism, Christianity, Judiasim, Islam and other faiths....that they all propose that you go to a higher state as long as you believe and have faith in your religion.

                            I think I got that right...
                            No, he is saying that all other religions require you to put a bit of work in to reach salvation. Christianity is "special" because you don't have to do a thing. Just for being alive You deserve eternal punishment because you are a sinner and all that jazz, but if you accept Jesus you get salvation free of charge because Jesus paid your bill.
                            Last edited by mossy; 04-16-2018, 10:27 AM.
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                            • #44
                              OHOD
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11047

                              Originally posted by mossy
                              No, he is saying that all other religions require you to put a bit of work in to reach salvation. Christianity is "special" because you don't have to do a thing. Just for being alive You deserve eternal punishment because you are a sinner and all that jazz, but if you accept Jesus you get salvation free of charge because Jesus paid your bill.
                              Got it.
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                              INGSOC comes to America.
                              Sip your Victory Gin folks, time's are a changin'

                              Time it was, and what a time it was, it was
                              A time of innocence, A time of confidences
                              Long ago, it must be, I have a photograph
                              Preserve your memories; They're all that's left you

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                              • #45
                                WASR10
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 2455

                                I see two interesting pieces. One, Jesus as the man, who was a teacher and figure of a new movement against the established religion. And Two, Jesus as the incarnate God who came to personally deliver the will of the Creator.

                                If Jesus were just a radical religious zealot who changed the status quo, given his time and place and documented history, it is very unlikely he knew anything about Buddha or his teachings. Not impossible, but unlikely.

                                If Jesus was indeed God incarnate, of course he was aware of Buddha, but being God incarnate, those ideas would have had zero effect on His message. Yes, there are similarities, but they come from very different foundations.

                                Believe what you will. The Bible does not include those 'lost years of Jesus' life' because they are not relevant to the message. Nothing is not given that is needed.

                                Its fun to speculate, but in the end there are few ideas that make sense.

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                                Last edited by WASR10; 04-17-2018, 2:13 PM.
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