Pope Francis: “There is no hell.”

[Burble74]

I’m a Catholic Christian. And if the pope said that hell doesnt exist .... and if he really believes that, it’s doesnt change the dogma of the Church which clearly teaches the existence of hell. There have been popes who’ve had some personal heretical beliefs, but they can’t change the dogma, especially since he’s not expressing a teaching excathedra....

Hell exists, and I’m sure if he meant what he said he’d press further, but only God knows what he truly meant by it. There’s lots of Catholics who don’t believe that the devil is real and there are even some priests who don’t believe because they’ve never witnessed a genuine possession or had ongoing experience with the supernatural. That’s part of our faith, and we don’t have to dabble in the occult to believe that the devil works in our world, we only need to look out our window and see his work in action. The secular world is constantly trying to feed the narrative that religion is a hobby, that appeals to a few who need it in order to make sense of life and death and it makes life easier...that’s bull because we know as Christians, carrying our own cross and following Christ is hard and even provokes violence and vitriol from many others who don’t believe in God or in the Truth. That Christian beliefs are hateful because it is against a sexually loose lifestyle is the new narrative from Uber liberal mouths. What they don’t get is as Christians e are aware that we sin, but because of Gods grace e have been saved...but we have to make reparation for our sin in the form of obedience to God, but. Following Jesus’ example and it’s an ongoing effort, because we are not perfect. Having faith and repenting isn’t a one and done thing...it’s an ongoing effort to shift our way to Gods Way.

[billvau]

Do you know and accept the Canons of the Council of Trent?

[Burble74]

Do you know and accept the Canons of the Council of Trent?

I’m not familiar with all of the disputes. I don’t disagree that the Church has always had inner turmoil, but theologically I don’t find the current dogma to be problematic. If there’s a specific issue perhaps it would be easier for me to answer your question. The only thing I’m required to accept and believe as a Catholic is the official dogma. It can be found anywhere online as the catechism of the Church.

There are a lot of things in the Church but not everything is required believing to be Catholic. There are however important concepts that every catholic must believe however like the belief in the trinity. Or that God was fully God and fully man, a both and situation vs all spirit or all divine which some people even Catholics believe. I believe in the real presence of God in the Eucharist, which is why it is called “communion” in the first place, and I do not believe it is merely symbolic, which is also the reason that 40percent of Christ’s followers left because they couldn’t accept the “eat my flesh” (literally “chew” in the original greek scripture from the Aramaic) and Jesus didn’t correct their objection like he normally would.

It’s interesting when people ..even some cradle Catholics, don’t know if they are Christian or not because they are used to separating Protestants from Catholics , but we are all Christians. Catholic was simply the name of the universal Christianity of the time ... and it’s called Roman Catholic not because Rome conquered The Christians, but because the Christians overtook Rome when it won over the masses.

Feel free to pm me if you want...
Considering this thread topic is hell related

One question,
Do you believe in sola scriptura, Or sola fide?

[H K corporate assassin]

I'm only interested in Gods word and not the Pope's opinions.

[wpage]

The bible is the source document for this information...

[Burble74]

I'm only interested in Gods word and not the Pope's opinions.

Ultimately the Popes opinions are simply opinions...even then I find that article suspect, because if he truly believed there’s no hell, there’d be an uproar in the Catholic Church since if Hell doesn’t exist, that means there’s one free will to turn from God, and we know that is not true.

Also that would mean that the devil doesn’t exist because the state of the devil is separation from God.

Either way way his opinion has never been expressed ex-cathedra so there’s nothing to it, except that the pope has to have a manager or he’s gotta stop talking off the cuff if he is to avoid confusion.

The Church is the last institution to have an image consultant or brand management, which is why those who stick out the most will sometimes stick their feet in mouth, but they are not in the habit of having everyone have to like them...which can work against spreading Christianity of course...that and the internal problems whether by usurpers or stupidity of men

The Catholic Church is subject to ALL the same failings of all human institutions of power INCLUDING all the scandals ever which are not new...and by all means the church SHOULD have been destroyed BY NOW by the same men especially by those who have tried, or ran their offices afoul like some deranged popes, despite all of it, the dogma remains unaffected...

Hell still exists, God is still Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, Christianity is a holy and apostolic institution based on Christ’s foundation as he established the Church/ a new Jewish Church to be precise renamed Christianity which eventually through Tradition gave us the rest of Scripture Compiled in the Bible long after the third century...

Whatever the Pope ...any pope...does, he cannot destroy basic Christian teaching because he cannot change what Christ established.

[rpm2day]

Hell is just west of Nevada.

[Burble74]

Hell is just west of Nevada.