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  • Just Dave
    Banned
    • Jul 2011
    • 7259

    OK Christian, what's wrong with this article?

    I browsed the comments but nobody caught it.

    Here's the article.


    The headline simply reads "Muslim births expected to outpace Christian births within 20 years"

    What's wrong with this?
  • #2
    damon1272
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2006
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    Cant read without subscribing.

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    • #3
      Not a Cook
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 1684

      Muslims are Muslims at birth - period. However, those who are disciples of Christ do not become His disciples at their FIRST birth. To be His disciples, we must be BORN AGAIN. As Christ taught Nicodemus,

      John 3:1-8

      John 1:12 also comes to mind:

      But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
      Regarding the 2nd Amendment:
      "...to disarm the people ― that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason ("The Father of the Bill of Rights")

      Regarding Life and Death:
      "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28

      The BIG question: "What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ?" Matthew 27:22b

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      • #4
        Just Dave
        Banned
        • Jul 2011
        • 7259

        Originally posted by damon1272
        Cant read without subscribing.
        I figured that would be the case for some so I put the headline (dead give away) in my comment.

        Originally posted by Not a Cook
        Muslims are Muslims at birth - period. However, those who are disciples of Christ do not become His disciples at their FIRST birth. To be His disciples, we must be BORN AGAIN. As Christ taught Nicodemus,

        John 3:1-8

        John 1:12 also comes to mind:

        But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
        Exactly.
        Apart from being born again John 1:12 makes it clear we are not born into it physically.
        You would think the WSJ would have a grasp on this.

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        • #5
          dieselpower
          Banned
          • Jan 2009
          • 11471

          Originally posted by Not a Cook
          Muslims are Muslims at birth - period. However, those who are disciples of Christ do not become His disciples at their FIRST birth. To be His disciples, we must be BORN AGAIN. As Christ taught Nicodemus,

          John 3:1-8

          John 1:12 also comes to mind:

          But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
          Thats a pretty racist statement and a slap in the face to Islam, but I am sure no one here cares about insulting Muslims or Islam.

          Islam and Muslim faith in general is still in the sword era. They are actively spreading the word of Allah, they are actively creating safe places for their religion to grow. Only during the elm era did they not do this.

          Christianity on the other hand has stopped their sword era and is in an elm era sorta speak. & That is sorta the problem.

          Muslims are creating more Muslim for the sole purpose of spreading their faith. They are moving to new places that are non-Muslim with specific intent to spread the faith.

          This is why America (in less than 100 years) will be a Muslim controlled country.

          The current trend in Christianity is to allow and get religion into government, instead of multiplying and spreading. This will someday turn on the christian faith.

          This website is about the only place you can publicly post racist statements (against Islam and people of middle eastern decent) and not do the same to Christianity. Many places that matter, like Social Media websites, its the other way around. I can publicly blast Christians all day long, everyone will see it, but post an anti-islamic statement and it will be electronically shadowed out.

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          • #6
            Wordupmybrotha
            From anotha motha
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2013
            • 6965

            Originally posted by dieselpower
            Thats a pretty racist statement and a slap in the face to Islam, but I am sure no one here cares about insulting Muslims or Islam.

            Islam and Muslim faith in general is still in the sword era. They are actively spreading the word of Allah, they are actively creating safe places for their religion to grow. Only during the elm era did they not do this.

            Christianity on the other hand has stopped their sword era and is in an elm era sorta speak. & That is sorta the problem.

            Muslims are creating more Muslim for the sole purpose of spreading their faith. They are moving to new places that are non-Muslim with specific intent to spread the faith.

            This is why America (in less than 100 years) will be a Muslim controlled country.

            The current trend in Christianity is to allow and get religion into government, instead of multiplying and spreading. This will someday turn on the christian faith.

            This website is about the only place you can publicly post racist statements (against Islam and people of middle eastern decent) and not do the same to Christianity. Many places that matter, like Social Media websites, its the other way around. I can publicly blast Christians all day long, everyone will see it, but post an anti-islamic statement and it will be electronically shadowed out.



            Not sure which part of your statement is tongue in cheek, sarcastic or serious, so not going to presume anything.

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            • #7
              RAMCLAP
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 2950

              Originally posted by dieselpower
              Thats a pretty racist statement and a slap in the face to Islam, but I am sure no one here cares about insulting Muslims or Islam.

              Islam and Muslim faith in general is still in the sword era. They are actively spreading the word of Allah, they are actively creating safe places for their religion to grow. Only during the elm era did they not do this.

              Christianity on the other hand has stopped their sword era and is in an elm era sorta speak. & That is sorta the problem.

              Muslims are creating more Muslim for the sole purpose of spreading their faith. They are moving to new places that are non-Muslim with specific intent to spread the faith.

              This is why America (in less than 100 years) will be a Muslim controlled country.

              The current trend in Christianity is to allow and get religion into government, instead of multiplying and spreading. This will someday turn on the christian faith.

              This website is about the only place you can publicly post racist statements (against Islam and people of middle eastern decent) and not do the same to Christianity. Many places that matter, like Social Media websites, its the other way around. I can publicly blast Christians all day long, everyone will see it, but post an anti-islamic statement and it will be electronically shadowed out.
              Islam isn't a race. Therefore, to make a point about Islam isn't racist. It is in fact a non-sequitur.
              Psalm 103
              Mojave Lever Crew

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              • #8
                dieselpower
                Banned
                • Jan 2009
                • 11471

                Originally posted by RAMCLAP
                Islam isn't a race. Therefore, to make a point about Islam isn't racist. It is in fact a non-sequitur.
                He said Muslim.. as Jewish is a Race so is Muslim.

                Islam = the religion, (voluntary submission to God)
                Muslim = the people, (one who submits)

                But to the point, race isnt real anyway. The last race of Humans, not us, died off 20,000 years ago. We are all breeds, not races.

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                • #9
                  mif_slim
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 10089

                  The reason I see why Christians will be 2nd is because we have built an attitude of myob. Islam on the other hand are always up front and talked about every day on media. In a way, their evangelizing without needing to whereas the only Christians doing footwork the laymen, pastors and missionaries. Compare that to the total population of "Christians", it's no more than 10 percent who are actually spreading the Gospel.

                  When you hear enough of something it becomes true, right? Basically since 2001, I been seeing Islam every single day vs Christians where it is only a handful of times since. If you want to see Christian topics, you have to go look for it, on Christian sites/channels.
                  Originally posted by Gottmituns
                  It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                  • #10
                    dieselpower
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11471

                    Originally posted by wordupmybrotha


                    Not sure which part of your statement is tongue in cheek, sarcastic or serious, so not going to presume anything.
                    its already happening under your nose.

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                    • #11
                      billvau
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 866

                      Originally posted by dieselpower
                      He said Muslim.. as Jewish is a Race so is Muslim.

                      Islam = the religion, (voluntary submission to God)
                      Muslim = the people, (one who submits)

                      But to the point, race isnt real anyway. The last race of Humans, not us, died off 20,000 years ago. We are all breeds, not races.
                      Jewish isn't a "race." Where do you get that from?
                      Muslim isn't a race either.

                      Not sure where you coming from or going!

                      Thanks,
                      Bill
                      Pastor Bill

                      "Unless I am convinced by Scripture and plain reason- I do not accept the authority of popes and councils [i.e. any man]- my conscience is captive to the Word of God." Martin Luther

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                      • #12
                        RAMCLAP
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 2950

                        Originally posted by dieselpower
                        He said Muslim.. as Jewish is a Race so is Muslim.

                        Islam = the religion, (voluntary submission to God)
                        Muslim = the people, (one who submits)

                        But to the point, race isnt real anyway. The last race of Humans, not us, died off 20,000 years ago. We are all breeds, not races.
                        Oh boy. No. Pay careful attention. Islam(Muslim as you call it) is a religion. Not a race. Europeans, Africans, Asians, and South Asians are races that participate it the Islamic religion. Islam is not a race.

                        Websters Dictionary


                        Definition of Islam
                        1
                        : the religious faith of Muslims including belief in Allah as the sole deity and in Muhammad as his prophet
                        2
                        a : the civilization erected upon Islamic faith
                        b : the group of modern nations in which Islam is the dominant religion

                        The moment you label those whom you disagree with as "racists" you lose all credibility. Would you like to try a civil discussion now?
                        Psalm 103
                        Mojave Lever Crew

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                        • #13
                          Wordupmybrotha
                          From anotha motha
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 6965

                          Originally posted by mif_slim
                          The reason I see why Christians will be 2nd is because we have built an attitude of myob. Islam on the other hand are always up front and talked about every day on media. In a way, their evangelizing without needing to whereas the only Christians doing footwork the laymen, pastors and missionaries. Compare that to the total population of "Christians", it's no more than 10 percent who are actually spreading the Gospel.

                          When you hear enough of something it becomes true, right? Basically since 2001, I been seeing Islam every single day vs Christians where it is only a handful of times since. If you want to see Christian topics, you have to go look for it, on Christian sites/channels.
                          What exactly is being said about Islam that's helping to evangelize their religion? I don't watch TV. Asking for info.

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                          • #14
                            RAMCLAP
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 2950

                            They are breeding. They are losing badly to conversion.
                            Psalm 103
                            Mojave Lever Crew

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                            • #15
                              dieselpower
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11471

                              Originally posted by RAMCLAP
                              Oh boy. No. Pay careful attention. Islam(Muslim as you call it) is a religion. Not a race. Europeans, Africans, Asians, and South Asians are races that participate it the Islamic religion. Islam is not a race.

                              Websters Dictionary


                              Definition of Islam
                              1
                              : the religious faith of Muslims including belief in Allah as the sole deity and in Muhammad as his prophet
                              2
                              a : the civilization erected upon Islamic faith
                              b : the group of modern nations in which Islam is the dominant religion

                              The moment you label those whom you disagree with as "racists" you lose all credibility. Would you like to try a civil discussion now?

                              No, he said Muslims are born Muslims, that is a direct statement of heritage which is commonly referred to as race.

                              First off, there is no such thing as race when you are talking about Homo-sapiens.
                              Kingdom: Animalia
                              Phylum: Chordata
                              Class: Mammalia
                              Order: Primates
                              Suborder: Haplorhini
                              Family: Hominidae
                              Genus: Homo
                              Species: H. sapiens
                              Every single person on this planet is the same, with minor variations in DNA handed down by breeding within a smaller community.

                              One of the other H. Sapien race was Neanderthals. They are GONE.

                              He clearly said, and I quote, "Muslims are Muslims at birth - period." That is a racist statement about Muslims.

                              No one is born into Islam. Its a voluntary submission to the will of the God Allah. Just like your Christian God, Jesus Christ.

                              Now he is going to freak out and say, "NO NO NO, you got to be saved again by..blah blah blah before you can be christian" when that is not the case. Its only his specific church that requires that. Just like only a few Muslims in a few Islamic faiths will do the same thing.
                              Last edited by dieselpower; 04-06-2017, 8:45 PM.

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