Christian: Do you believe in a Six Day Literal Creation?

[frenchy53]

AMEN

[quiet shooter]

The Hebrew grammatical structure of Genesis 1 is SO purposeful, detailed, repetitive and clear, that to deny a literal 6 day creation is being taught is simply to deny the obvious meaning of the text. The Hebrew constructs leave no room for gap theories, theistic evolution, day-age theories, etc. God didn't leave any doubts. 6 days is the only interpretation.

And, if you deny the creation account of Genesis 1-2, then you have no real, historical Adam, so you have no historical basis for sin, you have no need for a Savior, no Christ...you have no Christianity. In other words, Christianity begins at Genesis 1:1.[/QUOTE]




How fortunate we are to use 'faith' to believe.....the only thing we are asked to exercise.......faith in His word. For now we see through a glass darkly, but then, face to face. None of us will prove or disprove creation, but again, we are not asked to....we are asked to believe God's Word by faith.

[Bungi]

I have not read all of the entries in this thread, so forgive me if it was already mentioned. However, an excellent resource for this issue is:

"ANSWERS IN GENESIS"

Ken Ham has some great resources that I have found very helpful.

[baekacaek]

Time is just a dimension. If God was powerful enough to create the universe, then he also created the dimension of time. I think he could have easily done it either way, in 6 literal days, or 6 figurative days, or periods. So I don't necessarily believe in one or the other, either is possible

[Not a Cook]

Time is just a dimension. If God was powerful enough to create the universe, then he also created the dimension of time. I think he could have easily done it either way, in 6 literal days, or 6 figurative days, or periods. So I don't necessarily believe in one or the other, either is possible

Yes; time is merely a created dimension. God Himself transcends time. He could have created all of creation in the blink of an eye, or He could have created it all in six literal days, or He could have done it over billions of years. However, the question is NOT "what could God have done", but rather "what did God actually do?"

Your answer raises the questions: Do you believe the Scriptures? Are you a disciple of Christ?

[jasonnam]

I believe it's a literal six-day creation...

Don't find any arguments against the fact that the days are described clearly as having a morning and evening...a sunrise and a sunset.

Physically in the universe during creation....things were happening in a way we have never experienced in our lives...maybe glimpses of them in nature...natural disasters and such.

God could do it in 6 days, so why not take it as literal as it is coming in Genesis Chapter One?

[Joe Kidd]

Whatever the case may be, God in his sovereign majesty, who spoke the universe into existence, is bigger than any of my doubts or questions.

[Cali-Glock]

If there was death before the fall, then scriptural claims fall apart.

[Not a Cook]

If there was death before the fall, then scriptural claims fall apart.

Exactly.

For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 6:23

The FIRST part of that verse must be true, or else the second part of that same verse can't be true.

[Wordupmybrotha]

I think one of the biggest hurdles to believing in a 24hr 6 days creation is reconciling that with carbon dating which claims that the Earth is millions of years old. And interpreting "death" following the sin of Adam to be spiritual death rather than physical death.

[Not a Cook]

I think one of the biggest hurdles to believing in a 24hr 6 days creation is reconciling that with carbon dating which claims that the Earth is millions of years old. And interpreting "death" following the sin of Adam to be spiritual death rather than physical death.

Then, let us remove those "biggest hurdles" for folks.

Carbon dating is only a "hurdle" until someone becomes educated regarding what carbon dating is and its inherent limitations. To wit: http://www.truthingenesis.com/2013/0...ove-the-bible/

Regarding the interpretation of "death", what does it matter (in this context)? According to the Scriptures, death is the result of sin. There was no death - not "spiritual death" (a term which I do not like nor generally use), nor "physical death" (another term which I don't like nor generally use) - before Adam's sin. That means that ANY theory which posits interpreting the days of Genesis 1 as extended periods of time during which death occurred violates the basic scriptural truth that death is the result of sin.

[Wordupmybrotha]

Then, let us remove those "biggest hurdles" for folks.

Carbon dating is only a "hurdle" until someone becomes educated regarding what carbon dating is and its inherent limitations. To wit: http://www.truthingenesis.com/2013/0...ove-the-bible/

Regarding the interpretation of "death", what does it matter (in this context)? According to the Scriptures, death is the result of sin. There was no death - not "spiritual death" (a term which I do not like nor generally use), nor "physical death" (another term which I don't like nor generally use) - before Adam's sin. That means that ANY theory which posits interpreting the days of Genesis 1 as extended periods of time during which death occurred violates the basic scriptural truth that death is the result of sin.

I'll read up on carbon dating later. Thanks for the link.

As for definition of death, wouldn't it matter though? It has been argued in previous posts that since there was no death before the fall, there couldn't have been animal deaths. Thus that disproved old Earth believers, who believe animal deaths to have occured. But if death is spiritual death, that would only apply to humans since animals have no morality. And there weren't any humans before Adam and Eve so the old Earth belief would be plausible.

[Not a Cook]

I'll read up on carbon dating later. Thanks for the link.

You're more than welcome; keep in mind that there is much more to study than just that video, but it's a good start.

As for definition of death, wouldn't it matter though? It has been argued in previous posts that since there was no death before the fall, there couldn't have been animal deaths. Thus that disproved old Earth believers, who believe animal deaths to have occured. But if death is spiritual death, that would only apply to humans since animals have no morality. And there weren't any humans before Adam and Eve so the old Earth belief would be plausible.

Let me clarify: death (in ANY form) did not exist before Adam sinned. As such, no death occurred before the Fall. To believe otherwise requires that one make "death" mean something different than the plain, simple meaning of "death".

There are other problems with the "Old Earth" interpretation. Without going into too much detail, I'll point out one quick math problem with the "Old Earth" interpretation. The OE interpretation requires that the days of Genesis 1 be EXTENDED (very long) periods of time. But does that jive with the rest of the Genesis account (let alone the rest of the Scriptures)? Consider that Adam lived through AT LEAST part of the sixth day and all of the seventh day and then quite a few years afterward before his son Seth was born when Adam was "only" 130 years old (ref. Gen. 5:3). More can be said, but it becomes apparent then that (this is a ridiculously-generous calculation, but I'll present it thus so that it becomes how incorrect OE interpretations are) each "day" of Genesis 1 could not have exceeded approx. 100 years AT MOST (and it is worth noting that a period of far less than 100 years/day would be MUCH more likely even under this scenario thanks to other details I won't go into here). Thus... if you give the "Old Earth" theory the ultimate benefit of the doubt, all of creation week could not have exceeded 700 years (7 days X 100 years max. per day). This wouldn't be a problem, in theory, except OE believers generally (almost universally) believe in some form of macro-evolutionary theory (e.g. "theistic evolution") which considers MUCH longer periods of time and also involves death occuring during this (hypothetically) 700 year period.

It comes down to this: the Scriptures present the events of creation week as having occurred over the course of one literal week. Exegetical interpretation of Scripture will not lead one to a different interpretation; however, eisogetical interpretation can (and often does) lead one to doubt the plain meaning of the Scriptures.

[Wordupmybrotha]

This topic must be too controversial for my church pastors. They won't answer what they believe.

[Not a Cook]

This topic must be too controversial for my church pastors. They won't answer what they believe.

^ That is NOT a good sign (for at least two different reasons).