Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) Could Soon Recognize Same-Sex Marriage Read more at http

[hasserl]

http://www.westernjournalism.com/pre...wAGVr0IFRCX.99

[hasserl]

We've already seen the ELCA church go down this road. Sad to see it may happen to the Presbyterians too.

[RAMCLAP]

This is not shocking.

[Zorba]

Their church, their rules.

[Not a Cook]

Their church, their rules.

Ah... But that's the rub, isn't it? If it is "THEIR church", then of course it will be "THEIR rules". However, if the PCUSA is part of CHRIST's church (as taught in the Scriptures), then it is Christ's rules which apply. According to the Scriptures, there is only one true church - which is called both the bride of Christ and His body. The church is comprised of ALL those who have received new life in Christ. The true church belongs to Christ. It is not a denomination or other man-made construct, but rather is His body made up of individuals who know and love Him, having been born again. No mere man, regardless of station in life, is free to tamper/adulterate/pervert God's word. God joined Adam and Eve and instituted marriage; anyone who attempts to redefine marriage as anything other than what God ordained is simply wrong. I EXPECT the world to do this (after all, the world will live in rebellion against God), but it is truly sad to see a denomination that professes to be part of Christ's body outrightly reject what the Scriptures clearly teach.

If PCUSA leaders think they can change God's decrees to suit their own preferences and personal desires, then they shall have to answer to God for the damage they wreak upon His flock.

The leaders (esp. the elders) of the PCUSA will be called to give an account to God regarding how they handled this perversion of truth.

[RAMCLAP]

My church had to leave them because they lost their minds many tears ago. PCUSA hasn't been orthodox for a long time. They're all into the "social justice", and a plethora of leftist causes.

[eb47]

Many other Churches will also "vote" on what they want to acknowledge or change in the scriptures. I'm not surprised at all. Some Churches these days are more business minded than being led by the Spirit. All comes down to numbers.

[Just Dave]

One of the big issues I can see on the horizon is that the apostate church can and more than likely will be used to go after the true church.
Any leftist government can point to them and say "why not orthodox church? They're doing it" and then make demands that the orthodox church start following the apostate's precepts.

[colossians323]

Ah... But that's the rub, isn't it? If it is "THEIR church", then of course it will be "THEIR rules". However, if the PCUSA is part of CHRIST's church (as taught in the Scriptures), then it is Christ's rules which apply. According to the Scriptures, there is only one true church - which is called both the bride of Christ and His body. The church is comprised of ALL those who have received new life in Christ. The true church belongs to Christ. It is not a denomination or other man-made construct, but rather is His body made up of individuals who know and love Him, having been born again. No mere man, regardless of station in life, is free to tamper/adulterate/pervert God's word. God joined Adam and Eve and instituted marriage; anyone who attempts to redefine marriage as anything other than what God ordained is simply wrong. I EXPECT the world to do this (after all, the world will live in rebellion against God), but it is truly sad to see a denomination that professes to be part of Christ's body outrightly reject what the Scriptures clearly teach.

If PCUSA leaders think they can change God's decrees to suit their own preferences and personal desires, then they shall have to answer to God for the damage they wreak upon His flock.

The leaders (esp. the elders) of the PCUSA will be called to give an account to God regarding how they handled this perversion of truth.

Well said

[SWalt]

Polytheism should be the next step. Perhaps they can find truth there.

[POLICESTATE]

Remember "TULIP"?

"T" is for Total Depravity.

BAM!

[monk]

Personally, I welcome the signs of the apocalypse. The second coming can't be too far.

[POLICESTATE]

Their church, their rules.

You got that right. If they aren't following Christ then they are their own church, even if they profess to preach in His Name. Christ's church belongs to Him and it follows His word period.

[SWalt]

One of the big issues I can see on the horizon is that the apostate church can and more than likely will be used to go after the true church.
Any leftist government can point to them and say "why not orthodox church? They're doing it" and then make demands that the orthodox church start following the apostate's precepts.

I can see that. Remember yrs ago when the media/progressives would always harangue Church(es) to accept members with other viewpoints or calls to change their doctrine to be more inline with modern ideas? It would be little difference

[hasserl]

My church had to leave them because they lost their minds many tears ago. PCUSA hasn't been orthodox for a long time. They're all into the "social justice", and a plethora of leftist causes.

This brings into play the way that property is held in the organization. Many church bodies are set up so that properties held by a congregation ultimately go back to the main church body. For instance this came up with several Episcopal congregations after the national church body voted to approve of gay Priests, the congregations voted to leave the US church and affiliate with an Anglican church body. The Episcopal church told them they were free to leave, but they would have to find new properties, because the Episcopals were keeping the property. The Episcopal church sued and ultimately won in the CA state supreme court.

This makes it difficult for congregations, it['s tough to give up properties you've saved for and built and maintained, maybe refurbished over the years. It's a challenge, which is more important to you, the property or the Word? Of course it's not always so cut and dried. Some would say you should stay and fight to change the national body from inside. At some point that may become pointless to even try to do. It's kind of like gun rights in CA, do you leave for more friendly states, and give up all the beauty and weather & economic advantages here; or do you stay and fight the system in what appears to be a losing cause? Not easy decisions to make.