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  • #16
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    If your interest in LE is based on some sort of "exemptions" you would receive, you should look elsewhere.

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    • #17
      hey_scooter
      Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 139

      Originally posted by wazafuzz
      Completely different there as 1801/1811's are considered full time law enforcement and can be armed off duty.
      This is not entirely accurate. There are some 1801 jobs that are not true law enforcement, even though they fall under alphabet soup LE agency. They can be regulatory or law enforcement related but not able to make arrests or carry weapons and such.

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      • #18
        Rogue187
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 1157

        Gawernator..
        No need to check my sources..
        My agency hired four DLA officers and all four had to attend FLETC through our agency because they were not FLETC Certified.

        From the DLA webiste..

        Within the first year, officers will begin 11-weeks of intensive training in the Uniformed Police Training Program (UPTP) provided by theFederal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC), or a 9-week course at the Army Civilian Police Academy.

        You missed out on the OR section..it is up to the commander to decide if you merit going to FLETC or the Army Civilian Police Academy..Just like the officer of the DOD..it is up to the commander to decide..if you get to attend FLETC or not..

        As I mentioned the four of ours went to the civilian academy..so they qualified as GS-083's but did not qualify for FTO until they attended the 11 week FLETC academy..

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        • #19
          Big D
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 1070

          Originally posted by Rogue187
          Gawernator..
          No need to check my sources..
          My agency hired four DLA officers and all four had to attend FLETC through our agency because they were not FLETC Certified.

          From the DLA webiste..

          Within the first year, officers will begin 11-weeks of intensive training in the Uniformed Police Training Program (UPTP) provided by theFederal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC), or a 9-week course at the Army Civilian Police Academy.

          You missed out on the OR section..it is up to the commander to decide if you merit going to FLETC or the Army Civilian Police Academy..Just like the officer of the DOD..it is up to the commander to decide..if you get to attend FLETC or not..

          As I mentioned the four of ours went to the civilian academy..so they qualified as GS-083's but did not qualify for FTO until they attended the 11 week FLETC academy..
          So the only way to be a fed LE is to go to FLTEC?

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          • #20
            hey_scooter
            Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 139

            Originally posted by Big D
            So the only way to be a fed LE is to go to FLTEC?
            It's not as simple as that, but generally speaking if you apply to an agency that uses FLETC as it's training apparatus, then yes.

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            • #21
              Rogue187
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 1157

              Most agencies use FLETC as their standardized training.
              Some do not..some have the option..
              VA police go to their own in Little Rock, AR.
              Postal Police have their own also.
              Most Federal agencies use FLETC.
              DOD police can go to FLETC if the commander deems it so.
              Some such as Federal Reserve Police use their own in-house academy and sometimes their command may send an officer to FLETC. It depends.

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              • #22
                hey_scooter
                Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 139

                The overwhelming majority of these agencies have accreditation from FLETA. FLETC has the facilities, but if the agency has their own training process in house, they can be accredited by FLETA.

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                • #23
                  wazafuzz
                  Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 151

                  This is not entirely accurate. There are some 1801 jobs that are not true law enforcement, even though they fall under alphabet soup LE agency. They can be regulatory or law enforcement related but not able to make arrests or carry weapons and such.
                  Yep, you're right. I know there's all kinds of different positions under the 1800 umbrella. My mistake, I was only thinking of my old agency ICE, where the IEA's and DO's are all 1801 with LEO retirement.

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                  • #24
                    biglou
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1317

                    Originally posted by wazafuzz
                    I have a friend that works DLA. He's been there for over 10 years, he said that per his command staff, they are NOT allowed to carry off duty even though the LEOSA would cover them. Further, he said that they are required to turn in their badges, credentials and weapons at the end of their shift. They are all GS-083's. I worked for a Federal agency that was 1800 series. Completely different there as 1801/1811's are considered full time law enforcement and can be armed off duty.
                    I remember reading something about the DLA Officer that shot his friend out in town (Modesto) by mistake having something to do with this.

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                    • #25
                      Gawernator
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 743

                      Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                      If your interest in LE is based on some sort of "exemptions" you would receive, you should look elsewhere.
                      Why do you say that? Seems to be the best "perks" of the job in California. Get to join the powerful unions etc and have all the fun toys


                      *legally* .. lol
                      Last edited by Gawernator; 01-27-2015, 2:48 AM.
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                      • #26
                        Gawernator
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 743

                        Originally posted by Rogue187
                        Gawernator..
                        No need to check my sources..
                        My agency hired four DLA officers and all four had to attend FLETC through our agency because they were not FLETC Certified.

                        From the DLA webiste..

                        Within the first year, officers will begin 11-weeks of intensive training in the Uniformed Police Training Program (UPTP) provided by theFederal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC), or a 9-week course at the Army Civilian Police Academy.

                        You missed out on the OR section..it is up to the commander to decide if you merit going to FLETC or the Army Civilian Police Academy..Just like the officer of the DOD..it is up to the commander to decide..if you get to attend FLETC or not..

                        As I mentioned the four of ours went to the civilian academy..so they qualified as GS-083's but did not qualify for FTO until they attended the 11 week FLETC academy..
                        good catch, interesting
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                        • #27
                          NAVYLEO
                          Junior Member
                          • Feb 2017
                          • 2

                          Originally posted by Gawernator
                          good catch, interesting
                          Update, check with your hiring agency where your going to training at FIRST if you've not been to a accredited course yet!!! don't count on it's FLETC. Fletc is certified and that Army one is not.

                          also although legislation has been passed your hired as a LEO, some agency's have not completed their requirements to conform to laws passed as in entitlements as in Leo pay or Leo retirement packages.

                          Also check your agency's yearly physical requirements first too, if you have VA disability or perfectly fit, you may have to sign a waiver to be hired to do their requirements or even if your hired they could change it too make it a requirement. even though the o83 o85 series were designed for vets with disabilities but apparently due to being called LEO's now some agency's might be walking that grey line of the people with disability's act and not wavering applicants or people already employed.

                          this applies to all agency's not about this treads topic. lots have changed now for DOD police officer requirement being called LEO's these days.

                          make a list of agency's write down pro's and con's when job searching and choose wisely it's your next career field maybe till retirement.

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                          • #28
                            sdsu619
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2016
                            • 77

                            Originally posted by Gawernator
                            DLA Police Officers are sworn peace officers i.e. receive all those nice "exemptions" to CA gun laws? I see they're hiring near me and it would be cool to do for a few months to a year before a deployment...


                            DLA has 1811's or "SAs" pretty sweet gig M-F with mostly procurement fraud cases (mostly paper). There is some travel via the MIL logistics route. I've had a few amigos go there in their "sunset years".

                            Definitely something to think about. UPTP training program from Fletc is pretty universal. I've seen DoD, Us Capitol Police, USSS-UD, BIA and others go through it.


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                            • #29
                              Gawernator
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 743

                              I became a PI instead but thanks for the info guys haha.


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                              • #30
                                NAVYLEO
                                Junior Member
                                • Feb 2017
                                • 2

                                Fletc

                                Only DLA officers going to FLETC are those already employed for more training, due to other agency's snatching up their personnel they sent to FLETC getting picked off once graduating and spring boarding into better paying positions and jobs. now they only go to that un-certified army one then to fletc for specific training. DLA is weird likesome states certification programs are not accepted by DLA, yet some military schools are like the Army, navy, airforce military police schools are certified but not accepted by state police departments. vice versa lols, rolls chicken bones yes that school is accepted.

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