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  • tleeocinca
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 893

    Vehicle related question for LEO?

    For Christmas I was given one of those external GPS for my truck. It came with a windshield mount and I was wondering if I actually mounted it, would this cause me problems related to being ticketed?
  • #2
    MaHoTex
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2010
    • 5002

    Non-LEO.

    CVC 26708

    (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be
    mounted in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield
    farthest removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the
    lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of
    an airbag deployment zone, if the system is used only for
    door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated.
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    • #3
      RickD427
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2007
      • 9266

      Originally posted by tleeocinca
      For Christmas I was given one of those external GPS for my truck. It came with a windshield mount and I was wondering if I actually mounted it, would this cause me problems related to being ticketed?
      It could, depending on the placement. Please refer to Vehicle Code section 26708 for the details. Here is the text:

      26708. (a) (1) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any
      object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied
      upon the windshield or side or rear windows.
      (2) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or
      material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon
      the vehicle that obstructs or reduces the driver's clear view
      through the windshield or side windows.
      (3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle
      with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or
      rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.
      (b) This section does not apply to any of the following:
      (1) Rearview mirrors.
      (2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors that are mounted forward
      of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.
      (3) Signs, stickers, or other materials that are displayed in a
      seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest
      removed from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials that are
      displayed in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the rear
      window farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other
      materials that are displayed in a five-inch square in the lower
      corner of the windshield nearest the driver.
      (4) Side windows that are to the rear of the driver.
      (5) Direction, destination, or terminus signs upon a passenger
      common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not
      interfere with the driver's clear view of approaching traffic.
      (6) Rear window wiper motor.
      (7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.
      (8) The rear window or windows, if the motor vehicle is equipped
      with outside mirrors on both the left- and right-hand sides of the
      vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the
      highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to
      the rear of the vehicle.
      (9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite
      the driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and that
      occupies an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner
      toward the rear of that window and that provides the driver with a
      wide-angle view through the lens.
      (10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section
      26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's
      front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in
      his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed
      physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from
      the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession
      a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist
      certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a
      visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not
      be used during darkness.
      (11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center
      uppermost portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that
      is not greater than five inches square, if the device provides
      either of the following:
      (A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of
      the California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped
      with the device.
      (B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on
      public or private roads or facilities.
      (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be
      mounted in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield
      farthest removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the
      lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of
      an airbag deployment zone, if the system is used only for
      door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated.

      (13) (A) A video event recorder with the capability of monitoring
      driver performance to improve driver safety, which may be mounted in
      a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest
      removed from the driver, in a five-inch square in the lower corner of
      the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag
      deployment zone, or in a five-inch square mounted to the center
      uppermost portion of the interior of the windshield. As used in this
      section, "video event recorder" means a video recorder that
      continuously records in a digital loop, recording audio, video, and
      G-force levels, but saves video only when triggered by an unusual
      motion or crash or when operated by the driver to monitor driver
      performance.
      (B) A vehicle equipped with a video event recorder shall have a
      notice posted in a visible location which states that a passenger's
      conversation may be recorded.
      (C) Video event recorders shall store no more than 30 seconds
      before and after a triggering event.
      (D) The registered owner or lessee of the vehicle may disable the
      device.
      (E) The data recorded to the device is the property of the
      registered owner or lessee of the vehicle.
      (F) When a person is driving for hire as an employee in a vehicle
      with a video event recorder, the person's employer shall provide
      unedited copies of the recordings upon the request of the employee or
      the employee's representative. These copies shall be provided free
      of charge to the employee and within five days of the request.
      (14) (A) A video event recorder in a commercial motor vehicle with
      the capability of monitoring driver performance to improve driver
      safety, which may be mounted no more than two inches below the upper
      edge of the area swept by the windshield wipers, and outside the
      driver's sight lines to the road and highway signs and signals.
      Subparagraphs (B) to (F), inclusive, of paragraph (13) apply to the
      exemption provided by this paragraph.
      (B) Except as provided in subparagraph (C), subparagraph (A) shall
      become inoperative on the following dates, whichever date is later:
      (i) The date that the Department of the California Highway Patrol
      determines is the expiration date of the exemption from the
      requirements of paragraph (1) of subdivision (e) of Section 393.60 of
      Title 49 of the Code of Federal Regulations, as renewed in the
      notice of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration on pages
      21791 and 21792 of Volume 76 of the Federal Register (April 18,
      2011).
      (ii) The date that the Department of the California Highway Patrol
      determines is the expiration date for a subsequent renewal of an
      exemption specified in clause (i).
      (C) Notwithstanding subparagraph (B), subparagraph (A) shall
      become operative on the date that the Department of the California
      Highway Patrol determines is the effective date of regulations
      revising paragraph (1) of subdivision (e) of Section 393.60 of Title
      49 of the Code of Federal Regulations to allow the placement of a
      video event recorder at the top of the windshield on a commercial
      motor vehicle.
      (c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be
      installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the
      windshield if the following conditions apply:
      (1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above
      the undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point five inches
      in front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its
      rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.
      (2) The material is not red or amber in color.
      (3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other
      lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through
      the windshield.
      (4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into
      the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any
      greater extent than the windshield without the material.
      (d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and
      transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the
      front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the
      front seat if the following conditions are met:
      (1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88
      percent.
      (2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all
      requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49
      C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance
      of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as
      specified in that federal standard.
      (3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the
      ability of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful
      ultraviolet A rays.
      (4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the
      vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying
      that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of
      this subdivision and the certificate identifies the installing
      company and the material's manufacturer by full name and street
      address, or, if the material was installed by the vehicle owner, a
      certificate signed by the material's manufacturer certifying that the
      windows with the material installed according to manufacturer's
      instructions meet the requirements of this subdivision and the
      certificate identifies the material's manufacturer by full name and
      street address.
      (5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or
      bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be
      removed or replaced.



      POSTSCRIPT - MaHoTex beat me to the "Post" button. Sorry for the duplication
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      • #4
        sonofeugene
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 4458

        Non-LEO here: Most of the time you can find a spot to mount it where the only thing the GPS obscures is a little bit of your hood and does nothing to block your view of the road at all. In that case, I can't imagine a LEO having trouble with it.

        Depending upon your vehicle, you may be able to find a mount to position it so it's just behind the steering wheel, about even with the top of the wheel and just high enough so that neither the wheel or your hands obscure the GPS. This keeps it low but not too low and also keeps it within easy hand reach for operation.

        Also, check out RAM Mounts: http://www.rammount.com/products/gps
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        • #5
          tleeocinca
          Banned
          • Jan 2011
          • 893

          I appreciate the feedback. I really didn't want to have to give this gift back or return it because that would be rude, but I also wanted to make sure that the gift isn't going to be costing me a crap load in tickets

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          • #6
            MaHoTex
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2010
            • 5002

            Side note: I have been running with a portable GPS in the LL corner of the windshield for years and have never had any issues.
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