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  • dkindrumr
    Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 464

    HCM aquired while sworn

    Can a former LEO keep their Normal Cap mags once they have left the dept they worked for?

    Thanks
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    tquizzle
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1605

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the answer is yes they can. The illegal act is not mere possession. If they were acquired legally you can possess them with no qualms.

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      003
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 3436

      Yes, as noted above simple possession of full capacity (high capacity) magazines is not illegal. It is illegal to import, sell, and/or manufacture, (assemble from parts kits). It is legal to possess full capacity magazines that were obtained legally. For non Law Enforcement, that means prior to the date of the law, for retired cops that means either prior to the date of the law and/or those magazines that were obtained during active law enforcement service.

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        Che762x39
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 4538

        I am a lawman and was told different. If your retired your ok. But you quit or get fired you do not retain the "exemption" for high capacity magazines.

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          tquizzle
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 1605

          That is true for weapons purchased with a department letter. Those aren't supposed to be kept but the magazines are fine.

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            003
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 3436

            Whoever told you that is mistaken.

            Originally posted by Che762x39
            I am a lawman and was told different. If your retired your ok. But you quit or get fired you do not retain the "exemption" for high capacity magazines.

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            • #7
              yzErnie
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2007
              • 6309

              Originally posted by Che762x39
              I am a lawman and was told different. If your retired your ok. But you quit or get fired you do not retain the "exemption" for high capacity magazines.
              Legally owned property. You can keep them.

              Originally posted by britishtq
              That is true for weapons purchased with a department letter. Those aren't supposed to be kept but the magazines are fine.
              HUH? I (and many others) have plenty of firearms that were purchased with Letterhead and when I retired I was under no obligation to get rid of them. That is some of the worst FUD I have heard in a long time.
              The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

              Originally posted by RazoE
              I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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              • #8
                CBR_rider
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 2686

                Yup
                Originally posted by bwiese
                [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                • #9
                  Bob Hostetter
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1291

                  You can keep them if you purchased them but not if you were issued them.

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                  • #10
                    dkindrumr
                    Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 464

                    Thanks again everyone, I appreciate the quick response to my question.
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                    • #11
                      SVT-40
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 12894

                      Originally posted by Bob Hostetter
                      You can keep them if you purchased them but not if you were issued them.
                      Wrong.. If your agency allows you to keep issued magazines after retirement they are legal for you to keep and use...

                      Originally posted by britishtq
                      That is true for weapons purchased with a department letter. Those aren't supposed to be kept but the magazines are fine.
                      All a "department letter" does is allow the gun store to release the firearm to you without the ten day wait...

                      It has nothing to do with ownership....
                      Poke'm with a stick!


                      Originally posted by fiddletown
                      What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                      • #12
                        ke6guj
                        Moderator
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 23725

                        Originally posted by yzernie
                        HUH? I (and many others) have plenty of firearms that were purchased with Letterhead and when I retired I was under no obligation to get rid of them. That is some of the worst FUD I have heard in a long time.
                        Originally posted by SVT-40
                        All a "department letter" does is allow the gun store to release the firearm to you without the ten day wait...

                        It has nothing to do with ownership....
                        I think he might be mixing up 10-day exemption letters with AW-acquisition letters. nothing should affect those firearms purchased with a 10-day letter, but the AG opinion letter might affect continued AW-ownership after separation from the LEA.
                        Jack



                        Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                        No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                        • #13
                          Che762x39
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 4538

                          So then not a problem if somebody retires and has a G17 and 17 rd mags and a 33rd too. So that is cool as a "former lawman"
                          Last edited by Che762x39; 12-24-2014, 9:46 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Che762x39
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4538

                            Originally posted by Bob Hostetter
                            You can keep them if you purchased them but not if you were issued them.
                            Is that because my Beretta 92FS magazines say, "for military and L.E. use only"? Or at least the ones that felled into the ocean did.

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                            • #15
                              003
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 3436

                              A bit of history for the young guys. For the ten year period between 1994-2004, there was a federal “assault weapon ban” that included full capacity magazines. All full capacity magazines made during those 10 years were marked “restricted LE/military”. While existing magazines made prior to 1994 continued to be legally bought and sold, magazines made during those ten years were restricted to LE and the military.

                              There was a sunset clause in the law, and it expired in 2004. At that time the restricted wording became meaningless and was no longer required on new production magazines. While there may be some confusion relative to the legally of magazines with the restricted wording, they are in fact completely legal for anyone to own outside of the few states that currently restrict magazine capacity, California of course being one.

                              Also, as noted above any former LE that obtained restricted magazines during the ten year federal assault weaon ban (or any time after) can keep and use them, the same as magazines without the restriced wording.
                              Last edited by 003; 12-24-2014, 12:22 PM.

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