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  • Kyle1886
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 3673

    Question on impeding traffic flow.

    I tried looking up and Googling info on a CA. vehicle code that "might" prohibit impeding/stopping traffic on a CA freeway/roadway either by vehicular or pedestrian means. The best I could come up with is a now defunct Vehicle Code 21960.

    Is there NOT a vehicle code that restricts either drivers or pedestrians from impeding/stopping vehicular flow on roadways in a non-emergency event?

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    Kyle
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  • #2
    RedVines
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 463

    22400 CVC for vehicles

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    • #3
      Kyle1886
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 3673

      Thanks RedVines, I read that earlier but missed the part underlined below.

      22400. (a) No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or in compliance with law.

      No person shall bring a vehicle to a complete stop upon a highway so as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic unless the stop is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.
      I would think there would be a similar code for pedestrians. I saw the ones regarding "hitch-hikers, vendors, etc." but I think that might have a limited application.

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      Kyle
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      • #4
        P5Ret
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 6362

        21954 (a) and 21956 (a) can both be used for peds blocking a roadway.

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        • #5
          mixicus
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 624

          Depends on exactly what is going on but here are some...

          CVC21954(a)-Every pedestrian upon a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway so near as to constitute an immediate hazard.

          CVC21955- Jaywalking might apply.

          Various muni codes that cover what the jaywalking section doesn't

          CVC21654-slow vehicle

          CVC21209-driving in a bike lane

          ...to suggest a few

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          • #6
            Kyle1886
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 3673

            Thanks for the feedback. I was just curious (as an old has been firefighter/ems) which code would "most likely" apply to pedestrians en-mass blocking freeway/bridges to regular traffic flow and/or emergency vehicles.

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            Kyle
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            • #7
              P5Ret
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              • Oct 2010
              • 6362

              Originally posted by Kyle1886
              Thanks for the feedback. I was just curious (as an old has been firefighter/ems) which code would "most likely" apply to pedestrians en-mass blocking freeway/bridges to regular traffic flow and/or emergency vehicles.

              Respectfully
              Kyle
              Specific section for blocking an emergency vehicle. 21806 (a) for a vehicle failing to yield to an emergency vehicle, and 21806 (c) for a ped.

              Well at least the CHP doesn't seem to be fooling around with the "protester's" up this way getting on the freeway. Some of the arrested are still sitting in Santa Rita with good sized bail. Sadly I don't think there is enough room to house all of the one who should be arrested though.

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              • #8
                Kyle1886
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 3673

                Thank you all for your input, appreciated.

                In essence, depending on circumstances and perhaps the results of the "actions" of a person(s) impeding traffic, any number of codes "could" be applied, if needed.

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                Kyle
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                • #9
                  IrishJoe3
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3804

                  keep in mind the freeways are a completely different ball of wax. On the freeways 602 PC applies. Freeways are not legally accessible by pedestrians. Also if given a lawful order to leave the freeway, 2800PC also applies as well
                  Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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                  • #10
                    ptmn
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 788

                    Several years back, I cited a woman in the People's Republik of Bezerkely at Bancroft/Shattuck. She was stopped at the intersection arguing out her passenger window with someone on the corner.

                    Light turned green, I tapped on my loud speaker, but she just looked back, then kept arguing until the light turned red. I got pissed and cited her for 22400 CVC.

                    Typical Bezerkely citizen, she contested the ticket. Luckily for me, she copped an attitude in Judge Tabor's courtroom and pissed off the judge. Needless to say, she lost.

                    Big question is if she didn't piss off the judge, would the ticket have been dropped? Judge Rantzman dropped my only other 22400 cite back when the old courthouse in Berkeley was still open.

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                    • #11
                      IlDuche
                      Member
                      • May 2011
                      • 233

                      I'm surprised any cites/arrests are upheld in Berkeley. Must be because the courts are Alameda county. Now if Berkeley had their own courts and judges for crimes in city...well there wouldn't be a PD anymore! Always been curious what a berkely cop thought after working there, how it was, how people treated em, why they stayed.

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                      • #12
                        Spanky8601
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2252

                        Originally posted by ptmn
                        Several years back, I cited a woman in the People's Republik of Bezerkely at Bancroft/Shattuck. She was stopped at the intersection arguing out her passenger window with someone on the corner.

                        Light turned green, I tapped on my loud speaker, but she just looked back, then kept arguing until the light turned red. I got pissed and cited her for 22400 CVC.

                        Typical Bezerkely citizen, she contested the ticket. Luckily for me, she copped an attitude in Judge Tabor's courtroom and pissed off the judge. Needless to say, she lost.

                        Big question is if she didn't piss off the judge, would the ticket have been dropped? Judge Rantzman dropped my only other 22400 cite back when the old courthouse in Berkeley was still open.
                        Next time try using 21451 (a through d) as appropriate. A little more specific. I used it many a time for PC for DUI arrests.
                        May I always be the type of person my dog thinks I am

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