Personally owned Patrol Rifles

[08duramax]

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[TRICKSTER]

You need to go through a dealer that is also licensed to sell assault weapons, they will know the process and make sure it's done properly as it still needs to be registered with DOJ as a AW.

[003]

As I understand it, you can buy the rifle from the dealer with the letter and not wait the 10 days. It is then UP TO YOU to register it with DOJ. As I understand it the DOJ registration occures when you send in the paperwork. Unlike doing a regular DROS, the LEO buyer must still mail the appropriate paper work to DOJ.

[mark19]

Check with your department's policy regarding what happens if you leave. My department's policy is that they keep the rifle, regardless if I paid for it out of pocket with no requirement for re-imbursement.

[islandchanel]

I would call the shootist gun store in Murrieta. They are a class 3 dealer and would know.

[jdubs71]

Check with your department's policy regarding what happens if you leave. My department's policy is that they keep the rifle, regardless if I paid for it out of pocket with no requirement for re-imbursement.

you could sell it to another LEO or out of state right? If not I would take everything off and strip the lower before handing it back over. I was actually told the same thing, but there was nothing in writing. I went to another agency and before I left my Cheif gave me permission to take it with me.

OP, I would be careful about buying a ca legal AR and removing the bullet button, you commit a felony LE or not. DOJ has a list of assault riffle brands that are illegal to own. Those are actually what you want to purchase as an LEO and have registered to you as an AW. You can also purchase from a private party (LEO) and the registration is a breeze. The seller and purchaser fill out a form and DOJ has a blue card you fill out and send in a check for $19. Easiest transaction iv'e ever done and it didn't have to go through an FFL. As far as ordering new check with an FFL with the AW license.

[yzErnie]

Check with your department's policy regarding what happens if you leave. My department's policy is that they keep the rifle, regardless if I paid for it out of pocket with no requirement for re-imbursement.

A lot of administrators are using then Attorney General Jerry Brown's opinion as the law. It is not the law and if challenged the department would lose. They cannot take your lawfully owned personal property. Also covered and protected by this little thing we have called the 4th Amendment.

[9M62]

There is case law on this actually, and in that case, the cops lost and had to hand back their rifles. In that case, though, the rifles were registered to the department -- not to the individual officers. IMO, that makes a difference.

Assault Weapon laws allow possession of an assault weapon if its registered. They then define the requirements to register it. Obviously, a letter meets that requirement.

No where in the law does it say that one must continuously meet the original requirements that were needed to initially register the firearm. It simply says if its registered to you, you can own it and possess it.

A lot of departments do have the OPINION that they will take it back, but if it wasn't written down when purchased, and its not in the law, its yours. If you don't want to make that fight, strip it and give them a lower. Cut it in half before you give it to them.

As far as modifying a bullet-buttoned AR and registering it as an assault weapon -- don't do it. The DOJ won't register it for 1, and you'll be manufacturing an assault weapon without proper licensing to do so.

[yzErnie]

There is case law on this actually, and in that case, the cops lost and had to hand back their rifles. In that case, though, the rifles were registered to the department -- not to the individual officers. IMO, that makes a difference.

Apples (personally owned AW) vs Oranges (department owned AW). Anyone who would think they could keep a Department owned rifle is, IMO, an idiot.

[Patrick Aherne]

Go through ProForce.

[tom2]

2nd'ed.

Go through ProForce.

[ak_in_ca]

We have had guys with our department remove their BB's in their weapons with a chiefs letter stating the authorization to convert it to an AW (Similar to purchase letter) and then sending in the check and blue form to DOJ for AW registration.

[1911su16b870]

We have had guys with our department remove their BB's in their weapons with a chiefs letter stating the authorization to convert it to an AW (Similar to purchase letter) and then sending in the check and blue form to DOJ for AW registration.

Wow...that is the first time I heard of anyone doing that. Does the department armorer do the AW manufacturing or each individual officer?

[ak_in_ca]

Depends, if the guy has any idea how a BB is installed or how to install a standard mag catch. Some guys take it to an armorer others do it themselves.

[PolishMike]

Just be aware that you can not keep the rifle upon retirement.