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  • shenphong
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 364

    Starting my application all over again and a story (SJPD)

    Well as an update, I am going through the backgrounds process now, just had the background seminar last night for SJPD. I had to step out of it and begin again due to family issues that took priority forcing me to travel overseas. Had the background seminar yesterday (process went much faster this time around as I did not have to take the physical and written test this time around) and am excited to begin the process.

    I have a pretty clean history, high rated work evaluations at a job I've been at for the last 7 years, credit in the good standing/rating according to FICO, bilingual in Vietnamese, and drug use to once with marijuana almost 5 years ago now. Leaving my current job, just because this has always been something of a goal and dream for me to achieve.

    However, of all things, I received a traffic citation today...my first citation in almost 10 years. I had failed to yield to a pedestrian in Fremont's farmer market entering the crosswalk and admitted to the officer that I was fixated on him and his partner on their motorcycles (I saw the officers from a mile away, they are easily recognizable on the street and are well known that officers are there Saturday mornings). I explained to the officer why I was fixated oh him to the right and we both had a good laugh that I was a bit too enamored by them and he suggested I apply to Fremont PD as well (I've only really focused on SJPD).

    Tried to calm my fears that this would probably not be an immediate DQ in my backgrounds (though I think this now cuts me out of the running) and said if I was as honest with him as I am with my background officer (admitting fault immediately, apologizing and offering no excuse to weasel out) I should be ok and that I could even suggest them to contact him and he'd speak on my demeanor. To be honest, it made me smile, but I know how selective the process is and still frankly, very nervous now at what just occurred...just a shame to have this happen with my backgrounds beginning just last night with SJPD.

    Told me to go see the judge, not worry about it and just get my traffic court done fast to make sure the mark doesn't go on my record. Nice cop, lesson learned...just wanted to share that.
  • #2
    toddytguns
    Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 293

    Shouldn't be a problem, with it being your first one in almost ten years. Be honest and let your background investigator know. They are looking more at your honesty and integrity, as opposed that you did something wrong and got a ticket. Just my .02

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    • #3
      shenphong
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 364

      Thanks I plan to. With my past, I hope it'll be good enough, still just nerve racking though and another thing on the plate when the backgrounds are worrisome in general. I did check my records (I've kept my traffic citations since I was 17) and the last one was 8 years, 7 months ago).

      Does anyone here have first hand experience going through this with a citation during your backgrounds?

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      • #4
        phroggunner
        Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 225

        I received a traffic citation shortly after applying to two different agency's. One of them sent me a non-select letter very soon after submitting my personal history statement. The other agency pushed me through with the caveat that if I receive any more citations I can kiss my chances goodbye. I guess it really just depends on the department and what they are looking for in a potential officer.

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        • #5
          Unit74
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 2359

          Fight the ticket and let the BG investigator know as well. My question is this....


          How fast were you going, how far in the cross walk was the person? A simple time distance calc will show where you were when they stepped off. Factor in the perception/reaction time plus stopping distance, you may be able to prove you could not have stopped and in fact, the ped failed to yield to you! .......Or not.

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          • #6
            SimonBirch
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 1124

            You'll be alright. They look for recency and frequency combined. One little ticket isn't a big deal

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            • #7
              CBR_rider
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 2687

              If everything else is good one ticket shouldn't be a deal breaker.
              Originally posted by bwiese
              [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
              Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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              • #8
                ke6guj
                Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Nov 2003
                • 23725

                Originally posted by Unit74
                Fight the ticket and let the BG investigator know as well. My question is this....


                How fast were you going, how far in the cross walk was the person? A simple time distance calc will show where you were when they stepped off. Factor in the perception/reaction time plus stopping distance, you may be able to prove you could not have stopped and in fact, the ped failed to yield to you! .......Or not.
                realize that "yield to the pedestrian" should not mean that you must stop any time that a pedestrian is in a crosswalk. if it is safe to traverse the crosswalk without endangering the pedestrian, there is case law that says that it is legal to do so.
                Jack



                Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                • #9
                  Arkangel86
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 994

                  Ha we can barely get a full academy at SJPD they arent gonna DC good people for that
                  Guns dont kill people, I kill people

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                  • #10
                    shenphong
                    Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 364

                    Thanks for the word of advice guys. I was going maybe, 5mph. People were stopped in front of the train tracks in front of the cross walk so it was not like I was able to speed through it no matter what. I'll be frank and own up to my mistake and that the officer was in the right. He joked about it, said it was sort of BS but felt the need to ticket me anyways and thanked me for my candor in all of it. I respected his opinion and took it. I submitted it in my packet and am going in for my PHS interview soon, so will most likely come up there. From being homeless as a kid to now, I've always owned up to my mistakes. Lol amazingly, thats pretty much the worst that I've ever done, so hopefully nothing else. Thanks for the words of encouragement though guys. This has been something I've wanted to do for a long time.

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                    • #11
                      BearArms
                      Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 160

                      You'll be fine, SJ is desperate to keep bodies on the streets. Just be honest, that's a lot more important.

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