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  • vospertw
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 791

    Question for LEO Regarding SB 53

    One of the things I've seen in support of SB 53 is that it will give law enforcement more investigative tools since all transactions for ammunition will be tracked. Having never been in law enforcement, I have to rely on my simple Marine mind to figure this out, but would having ammunition sales records really help you solve crimes?

    Two scenarios - if I were a criminal (note to NSA - this is hypothetical, I'm not a criminal) I would not purchase ammunition online or with a credit card to eliminate any transaction record. I wouldn't use a gun that was registered to me and I would remove any identifiable marks on the gun. I certainly wouldn't apply for an ammunition purchase permit. So I gain access to ammo and I use it in a crime - where does SB 53 help you guys?

    If, as a normally law-abiding citizen I happened to commit a crime with a gun, I most likely have used my own firearm, more than likely properly registered, with ammunition I purchased with a traceable financial transaction. In this case, it seems like you would have enough information based on our current laws to use in an investigation.

    Am I missing something?

    Thanks in advance.
    Jesus Saves!
  • #2
    tyrist
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 4564

    It probably won't help to "solve" a crime but you can probably attach their wife/girlfriend as an additional charge.

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    • #3
      Ron-Solo
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      It won't fight crime one single bit.

      It's just another way to make life difficult for gun owners.
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      • #4
        vospertw
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 791

        Thanks. Didn't seem like it would but you have a tough enough job already without armchair quarterbacks making assumptions.
        Jesus Saves!

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        • #5
          micro911
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 2346

          What if someone stole your gun and ammo?

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          • #6
            vospertw
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 791

            That's what I was saying about criminals in the first place; they aren't using ammo or guns registered to themselves so SB 53 doesn't provide any extra information for the investigation anyway.
            Jesus Saves!

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            • #7
              michael0594
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 764

              Criminals don't give a damn about what gun or ammo they use. That's why they're criminals. Liberals are too stupid to understand that logic.

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              • #8
                Heiko
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 1025

                SB53 is another lame brained politically motivated attack on law abiding citizens.

                Most cases I see where criminals have ammunition it is an assortment of crap ammo in a sock or baggie or just loose in a drawer or center console. The quantities are small. It is rare to see a nicely maintained box of ammo and there is no way any dirtbag criminal is ordering 1000 rounds from Cabela's or Sportsman Guide.

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                • #9
                  NuGunner
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 705

                  reminds me of a shooting we had where the suspect was shooting wadcutters. Good luck with that one.

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