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  • RobertDole
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 324

    Question for any SBC Sheriff's

    I recently moved to the unincorporated part of Upland (San Antonio Height's), the cul de sac I now live in is occupied a few times a week over night by people drinking, doing drugs(not just pot, I found a broken meth pipe in the gutter) and I find used condoms fairly often. There also is a trail from my cul de sac that leads up to a creek, which is trashed nightly but isn't my problem. The trial is supposed to be closed dusk to dawn. I have been told by most of the neighbors I talk to that the sheriff's will not come out unless its an emergency and if they do it will be several hours wait. Whats your thoughts on my options? the neighbors have small kids that shouldn't be exposed to things of this nature, But im not looking forward to tapping on windows to ask people to take off.

    Sorry for the rant, any advice is appreciated


    I had posted this in the wrong area earlier, hope this is the correct place.
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  • #2
    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30242

    not associated with the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department

    Upland is not a contract city for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department and the closest patrol station is in Rancho Cucamonga (909-477-2800), which would account for the length of time needed for them to respond since their primary concern is policing Rancho Cucamonga.

    Have you tried contacting the Upland Police Department (909-946-7624)?

    Both the Upland Police Department and the Rancho Cucamonga Police Department (San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department) have specialized community improvement teams that typically handle situations like this.

    Hedge your bets and contact both LE agencies, about this situation. Make an issue out of it, so that they do something.

    Also, you can go to the Upland City Council meetings and bring this issue up and complain how the Upland Police Department isn't doing anything about it.
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    • #3
      RobertDole
      Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 324

      Thank you for your reply. I will have to start calling.

      I haven't personally called. I am the guy that goes out every morning and picks up the bottles and whatever else is left behind. Im not sure what to tell any PD the fallowing day? I don't think it would help if I call on every car that parks in front of my place. I see around a dozen cars a day. Im thinking of setting up a camera or two, that way I know what cars to call on?

      Thanks again, BOB
      sigpic "Call on God, but row away from the rocks." H.S.T

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        IMO...
        Start documentation.
        Log day/times. Record vehicle description/plate numbers.
        See if there is a pattern. (such as every other Saturday night, 12 car loads of unknown subjects park & party)
        If there is a pattern, it's more evidence/information you can use to motivate the the LE agencies.

        Since, this seems to be a constant occurrence, this will only be fixed over time. Which calls for your due diligence and for motivated LEOs.
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        "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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        • #5
          retired
          Administrator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Sep 2007
          • 9409

          If you live in the unincorporated county area as you said, then Upland PD would not be the proper le agency to contact since they are responsible for the city of Upland only.

          If SBCS is like my former agency (LASD), the cars that cover the contract city (Rancho Cucamonga in this case) generally do not go into the county areas unless they are providing back up or assistance to a county car or there is an emergency call. They are responsible for the city area.

          The car that would respond would be the county car that is responsible for that area and I would surmise they cover a large area and it would not surprise me if there was only one deputy to cover the whole area out there. Hence the long response time if he is on another call.

          I live in the Riverside unincorporated county area of Winchester. There is one deputy on all shifts to cover the whole North county area, which is large. Same thing goes for the county area around the Pechanga Casino. This is also a large area. As a result, unless a fairly emergent call occurs, we may have a long wait unless the deputy happens to be patrolling only. Even then, it depends where he is compared to the particular location he has to go to.

          My experience in working the unincorporated areas of LA County in Azusa, Covina, Glendora, La Verne, was, if a city contract deputy called in sick, a deputy from the county area would be taken out of his/her car and would work the affected city. The contract has to be fulfilled. That leaves one less deputy in that county area and it used to happen to me frequently. I would be moved to cover either Diamond Bar, Walnut or San Dimas, all contract cities for Walnut/San Dimas Station (now DB instead of San Dimas)

          The three areas had multiple deputies working, so one deputy removed wasn't too bad, although we had a fairly large area to cover. LASD is a much larger dept. than SBSD or RSD, so we had more patrol deputies.

          My point being after writing this book, is you may be in a similar situation. I would recommend calling the Sheriffs station that patrols your area. I have a hard time believing your neighbors saying the deputies are refusing to respond to your area. If you get that told to you when you call, call back and ask for a supervisor. Realize tho, if it is a Friday or Sat. night, you will have a longer response time as all calls are prioritized, Obviously a burglary now call has priority over you reporting people drinking, etc. Prioritizing is done throughout the week on each shift also.

          Good luck.
          Last edited by retired; 02-22-2014, 12:45 AM.

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          • #6
            RobertDole
            Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 324

            @retired. From what I'm told, my area is exactly as you described. I will call and explain my situation. Maybe they will be really helpful.

            @quiet. I like the idea of keeping record of vechicals. Atleast that way the next time I find anything noteable, I will have a idea of who it could belong too.

            Thanks again for the input. Bob
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            • #7
              Swatter911
              Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 398

              That area is serviced by the sheriff's Fontana Station.

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