LASD Problem Employees

[Warhawk014]

What a bunch of ****ing knuckledraggers. They all need to be fired, prosecuted, convicted and jailed. And Baca should resign in shame.

Skating some thin ice in here.

Looks like someone manufactured a short barreled rifle

[Ron-Solo]

All I can do is shake my head in disbelief. Sergeant Scott Craig worked directly under me in Court Services Division and was one of my best sergeants. There was never any indication of misconduct when he worked for me. Looks like he lost his way. Sad day for LASD.

What a bunch of ****ing knuckledraggers. They all need to be fired, prosecuted, convicted and jailed. And Baca should resign in shame.

Skating some thin ice in here.

Looks like someone manufactured a short barreled rifle

If the allegations are true, I have to agree with Armando. I spent 32.5 years with LASD. This is a major embarrassment to those of us who did the job with honor and integrity.

[Che762x39]

Looks like he lost his way.

I think that is the saddest part of being a LEO. When you see someone go bad. One of my classmates from the academy went to prison, several coworkers went to prison.

[benjamin101677]

I think that is the saddest part of being a LEO. When you see someone go bad. One of my classmates from the academy went to prison, several coworkers went to prison.

The saddest part of being a LEO Officer is when other LEO Officer go bad and do illegal / immoral things that give the law enforcement community and their agency a black eye.

There is always going to be corruption in law enforcement as long as law enforcement are human. People just go bad sometimes.

I don't personally know any Los Angeles Sheriff Deputies but I am sure that 99% of the the deputies in the department do a really good job and attempt to make the L.A. Area a better place to live and visit. Unfortunately; because of some scum bag deputies the whole agency is currently looking bad in the eyes of the nation.

[benjamin101677]

All I can do is shake my head in disbelief. Sergeant Scott Craig worked directly under me in Court Services Division and was one of my best sergeants. There was never any indication of misconduct when he worked for me. Looks like he lost his way. Sad day for LASD.





If the allegations are true, I have to agree with Armando. I spent 32.5 years with LASD. This is a major embarrassment to those of us who did the job with honor and integrity.

I would not be embarrassed Ron, as it sounds like you did the best job that you could do for your agency with pride. Crazy things happen and with a big agency the numbers are going to be more than if with a smaller agency.

Lots of things that happen are sweep under the rug, my first agency Sheriff was arrested for drunk driving and evading law enforcement when they attempted to stop him in his department vehicle. Makes people wonder what other things get sweep under the rug.

In the long run this could make LASD a better agency when the 1% or less bad apples are cleared out

[lavey29]

[QUOTE=Ron-Solo;12888455]I'm no fan of the Times, and some of the info they used was illegally obtained because of California privacy laws concerning employment, but they kind of hit the nail on the head.

The incorporation of the "County Police" was not something LASD was looking forward to, because of the low standards of that agency, which was troubled for years. The LASD wasn't "required" to hire any of them, and shouldn't have hired any of them, but due to the size of the responsibility being taken on, they had to take some just to maintain the contract.

The "County Police" changed names several times over the years and included LA County Park Patrol, County Hospital Police, and security positions covering county buildings, welfare offices, etc. None of them had a decent reputation among other law enforcement agencies for years. The "Park Patrol" was jokingly referred to as the "Playground Safety Monitors"

The LA County Office of Public Safety was a joke. Most positions merited nothing more tan a security officer for staffing.




Pretty much sums it up. The supes put pressure on the Department to hire as many as possible. Same thing occurred with Maywood take over. There were class action type lawsuits pending for those that didn't get hired that the County and the Department was trying to avoid. Hires were given 3, 4, 5 even 6 different poly tests until they passed per Waldies instructions.

[zeekster]

I'm no fan of the Times, and some of the info they used was illegally obtained because of California privacy laws concerning employment, but they kind of hit the nail on the head.

The incorporation of the "County Police" was not something LASD was looking forward to, because of the low standards of that agency, which was troubled for years. The LASD wasn't "required" to hire any of them, and shouldn't have hired any of them, but due to the size of the responsibility being taken on, they had to take some just to maintain the contract.

The "County Police" changed names several times over the years and included LA County Park Patrol, County Hospital Police, and security positions covering county buildings, welfare offices, etc. None of them had a decent reputation among other law enforcement agencies for years. The "Park Patrol" was jokingly referred to as the "Playground Safety Monitors"



The LA County Office of Public Safety was a joke. Most positions merited nothing more tan a security officer for staffing.




As someone who spent 32.5 years with LASD, I agree. I do not personally know him, but his reputation within the Department was outstanding. He was known as a straight shooter, approachable and honest.

LASD had its share of corrupt deputies long before they took in any County Police Officers during the take over. Were there Officers that should have never made it over as Deputies? Of course. Are there Deputies that should have never been hired as Deputies? Of Course.

[Ron-Solo]

LASD had its share of corrupt deputies long before they took in any County Police Officers during the take over. Were there Officers that should have never made it over as Deputies? Of course. Are there Deputies that should have never been hired as Deputies? Of Course.

I don't dispute that, because I had the unpleasant task of terminating several deputies under my command for various reasons.

The County Police hiring was a screw up on a large scale basis that could have been avoided.

[lavey29]

Rumors floating around about a second wave of indictments next week. This one will be for the executive level. If this is true, sure will be interesting to see how high up the food chain it goes. WitnessLA has some good read.

[Ron-Solo]

[Patrick Aherne]

The allegations about the two lieutenants are shocking. Knowing a fed probe was underway and interfering with it?

[Samuelx]

I really doubt they did it all on their own. It wouldn't surprise me if there was some "guidance" from some people above them.

I'm wondering if Lt is the highest rank they're going after. I'm still flabbergasted that this captain wasn't charged/prosecuted...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/11/sheriffs-captain-passed-information-to-drug-suspect-da-alleges.html

D.A. memo details suspected L.A. sheriff's captain-drug suspect link
November 23, 2012 | 8:01 am Los Angeles County Sheriff's officials created an elaborate sting operation to investigate whether a respected captain was secretly passing information to a suspected drug dealer, according to records reviewed by The Times.

Capt. Bernice Abram was believed to be giving information to Dion Grim, the suspected drug dealer.

In April 2011, sheriff's officials placed Abram on leave and for more than a year afterward her ties to Grim were investigated. Prosecutors recently declined to file charges against Abram, saying they couldn't prove the captain knew that Grim, a documented gang member, was involved in illegal activities.

But a district attorney's memo explaining that decision provides the most detailed description yet of how the Sheriff's Department came to believe that one of its up-and-coming leaders was betraying the agency and shows the efforts officials pursued to prove it. The memo also documents several occasions when Abram appeared to use her authority to help Grim avoid law enforcement scrutiny.

An FBI investigation into Abram is ongoing, a spokeswoman said.

The Sheriff's Department placed Abram on leave along with her niece, a custody assistant whom prosecutors said improperly accessed a law enforcement database for Grim. They remain on leave and together have collected more than an estimated $300,000 in salary as the sheriff's internal probe continues, based on posted county salaries.

Abram first met Grim after she started dating his father three years ago, prosecutors said. (According to her Sheriff's Department biography, Abram, 53, was married to another man.) She became "good friends" with Grim, 36, a member of the Original Front Hood Crips, a Compton street gang.

In 2010, FBI agents had begun investigating Grim, suspecting that he was the ringleader of a cross-county drug trafficking ring. A sheriff's detective helping with the investigation was reviewing Grim's wiretapped phone calls when he heard a woman's voice he recognized: Abram's.

In the months that followed, authorities continued to target Grim. And on several occasions, Abram interjected herself, prosecutors said. In one instance, a sheriff's deputy, Michael Haggerty, was directed by the FBI to arrest Grim after a traffic stop. In an interview with The Times, Haggerty described Grim as oddly calm for someone in the back seat of a patrol cruiser. "You'll see what happens," Grim said, according to the deputy.

The district attorney's memo details Abram's involvement in the case: Shortly after the arrest, she called the Compton station and asked for Grim to be quickly released from custody. She got his car out of impound and got the fees waived. She also picked Grim up from jail, according to the memo.

Days later, she texted another deputy at the Compton station who considered her a mentor, asking if he knew Haggerty. She told him Haggerty had issued a ticket to a family member of hers and that the court date was approaching. "Feel him out," she reportedly said.

The deputy then approached Haggerty and told him that a friend from the Carson station "who had a lot of clout asked him not to show up in court if he was issued a subpoena," according to the memo. The city attorney dismissed the case, however, so Haggerty was never subpoenaed.

Around that time, the Sheriff's Department began receiving multiple citizen complaints against Haggerty. One of the complainants, the memo states, "admitted that Abram instructed them to make complaints to get Haggerty transferred" out of Compton.

A few months later, another sheriff's deputy arrested Grim on an excessive noise violation. Again, according to the memo, Abram called the station to get Grim released. This time, she asked that he not be moved to the jail and instead be kept at the station, where she picked him up. She was heard later on the wiretap assuring Grim the case wouldn't be filed. "I told someone he'd better take care of it," she said.

The month after that, a deputy at Abram's station ticketed Grim's sister on a traffic violation. Abram approached the deputy and "asked him to make the ticket 'go away,'" according to the memo. She later used her power as a captain to void the ticket.

The favors continued, according to prosecutors. In January last year, Grim called Abram to ask about police activity on his street. She called back minutes later and told him that sheriff's gang enforcement deputies had served search warrants targeting two shooting suspects and planned to serve another the next day.

A few months later, Grim was ticketed again, and he immediately called Abram. She ordered a detective at her station to "look into it," according to the memo, an order he understood to mean that he should get the ticket dismissed.

That month, sheriff's investigators moved in with their sting operation, ensnaring Abram with the phony surveillance plans. She was relieved of duty, along with her niece, Chantell White, a custody assistant at the sheriff's South L.A. station. Investigators discovered that on three occasions, Grim used White to access a law enforcement database to run a friend's name for outstanding warrants, according to the D.A.'s memo.

Last year, federal authorities arrested Grim and several other alleged members of a drug ring suspected of moving marijuana, Xanax pills and pint bottles of codeine with promethazine, also known as "sizzurp" or "purple drank." Grim has pleaded not guilty.

Both Abram and White have repeatedly declined to comment to The Times. In one instance, Abram told a Times reporter before hanging up that she'd never heard of Grim.

[CBR_rider]

I hate scumbags of all stripes, but the ones at the top (or should I say bottom..) of the pile are scumbags with a badge...

[55chevypost]

I hate scumbags of all stripes, but the ones at the top (or should I say bottom..) of the pile are scumbags with a badge...

Gents, I feel and understand the frustration and at face value this situation is bad for all of us. I just wish with the amount of experience coppers have on this forum, we would not jump the gun too soon. We have dealt with " scandals" in the past that the media ran like crazy and when the dust settled, they were not nearly what was portrayed. Lets do like we would on any investigation we were doing ourselves and wait for all the facts/info, then make a conclusion.

[CBR_rider]

For the sake of clarity, I am not necessarily agreeing that those specifically mentioned in this thread are guilty or not (I am neither official judge or jury); simply stating my opinion on scumbags who one way or another happen to find themselves wearing a badge.