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  • lifeofduty
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 159

    PLEASE DELETE

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    Last edited by lifeofduty; 09-02-2014, 4:27 AM.
  • #2
    thospb
    Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 224

    I am not LEO. But try thinking in these terms- if you are asked a direct question such as "Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of a paramilitary organization?" Will your truthful answer be incriminating? I think signing a liability waiver to do a rappelling course is no different than if you did the same course at the YMCA or signed a waiver to participate in a Tough Mudder.

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    • #3
      lifeofduty
      Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 159

      Thanks. I see no police are commenting makes you wonder lol

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      • #4
        34marine
        Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 117

        I am an LEO. I'd pass on joining a militia if you're looking at a LE career. They may be totally cool and all that, and it's great to be with people who have the same views and likes as you, but it may be seen as extreme in the eyes of an employer. And in this day and age where jobs are harder and harder to come by, that can make the decision to nix you from a hiring process all that easier. Go for the job, I guarantee once you get it and get to a duty station, you'll find some cool co-workers with the same likes and such as you. Just my $.02.
        Last edited by 34marine; 11-15-2013, 5:02 PM. Reason: Grammar

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        • #5
          IrishJoe3
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 3804

          I can't really say one way or other other. Why not the California State Military Reserves?

          Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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          • #6
            riddler408
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 1746

            Good group of guys and gals. Very refreshing to meet so many like minded folks in my area.
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            • #7
              Caddis
              Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 120

              You need to understand the LEO background process and the perception of those at the top in command whom ultimately give you the okay. Most LEO's including myself, hold conservative views and are pro-gun. As you go further up the rank, particularly with chiefs and sheriffs, you no longer are a cop (in many cases) and are now a politician so they must drink the liberal Kool-aid given to them by the Board of Supervisors and City Managers and Councils.

              When anything such as "Militia " pops up, even though these are great Americans whom I fully support and are the people I least worry about if the stuff hits the fan, you will be looked at closely and possibly passed over. Having been involved in the hiring process, this is my personal opinion based on similar issues like this which I have seen. It's safer to move on to the next candidate then to have a chief or sheriff be accountable if a real crack-pot does slip through the process knowing this came up in background (not insinuating that about you).

              I'm not sure how much lower the standards are for fed jobs, which I think are lower because management accountability is much more broad unlike a city or county, so you may be okay.

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              • #8
                lifeofduty
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 159

                Much appreciated guys. Thanks for the input. And thanks for doing what you do.

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                • #9
                  SIP2000GLO
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1001

                  Anything with mil...a, clan, club, tribe. Stay away, far away. If it doesn't bite you now, it will later.

                  You are/will be joining a group that "may", "may" be potentially against big brother. What do you think? Is that cool?

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                  • #10
                    Che762x39
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 4538

                    If you are talking about the CA State Military Reserve which is called the State Guard in other states, is one thing. You can look them up on the internet. Similar to the Army National Guard but they do not deploy outside the state.

                    Now you talking about the clowns who dress up in cammies and run around the woods like in Michigan and Texas, look it up, you might be asking for trouble.

                    YMMV, JMHO

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                    • #11
                      lifeofduty
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 159

                      There are some weird videos on Youtube. I am referring to the Northern California State Militia; Website is Modern Militia Movement. There are some pretty crazy Youtube videos saying not to join...and take it one step further to say its even demonic lol.

                      Anyway, found this video when I was browsing:

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                      • #12
                        Ben045
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 16

                        Being a leo and constitutionalist I'm all for the type of militia you speak of. But, unfortunately if you're trying to get a leo job I could see that hurting you when they do you're background check. Wait until after you get your job and clear probation.

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                        • #13
                          WyattandDoc
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 767

                          Originally posted by Caddis
                          You need to understand the LEO background process and the perception of those at the top in command whom ultimately give you the okay. Most LEO's including myself, hold conservative views and are pro-gun. As you go further up the rank, particularly with chiefs and sheriffs, you no longer are a cop (in many cases) and are now a politician so they must drink the liberal Kool-aid given to them by the Board of Supervisors and City Managers and Councils.

                          When anything such as "Militia " pops up, even though these are great Americans whom I fully support and are the people I least worry about if the stuff hits the fan, you will be looked at closely and possibly passed over. Having been involved in the hiring process, this is my personal opinion based on similar issues like this which I have seen. It's safer to move on to the next candidate then to have a chief or sheriff be accountable if a real crack-pot does slip through the process knowing this came up in background (not insinuating that about you).

                          I'm not sure how much lower the standards are for fed jobs, which I think are lower because management accountability is much more broad unlike a city or county, so you may be okay.
                          THIS.....Could not have said it better.
                          Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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                          • #14
                            veeklog
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1040

                            Stay away; question is asked on SF-86 and when the BI speaks to your references, family, friends, etc

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