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  • #46
    Bobby Ricigliano
    Mit Gott und Mauser
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 17439

    Originally posted by WyattandDoc
    I heard some of them have the LAPD stamp on them. I think that would be cool to have. Not sure how many were purchased from them, but the history of that will be pretty cool someday.
    Wrong department!

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    • #47
      Ron-Solo
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      Originally posted by WyattandDoc
      I heard some of them have the LAPD stamp on them. I think that would be cool to have. Not sure how many were purchased from them, but the history of that will be pretty cool someday.
      Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
      Wrong department!
      Actually, LASD bought Ithica guns from LAPD when they phased them out. I had a couple of them in my armory at Pasadena Court. Most were bought for parts, but there were a few gems in the batch.
      LASD Retired
      1978-2011

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      • #48
        retired
        Administrator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Sep 2007
        • 9413

        Originally posted by Gnome
        Retired and Ron,

        I'm sorry you guys don't have the opportunity to buy a piece of YOUR Dept history. I know you guys earned it, and quite honestly, deserve one more than I do.

        There are times when I wish our Dept would just grow a pair of balls. This is one of those times

        With that said, I'll gladly let you two fondle my "Boomer" whenever you want
        Pitchess was the Sheriff the last time that happened.

        Thanks Gnome for the offer to fondle your "Boomer," but that would just make it worse knowing it wasn't mine. I was looking forward to buying one when I learned back in 2010 they would be selling them once they worked everything out.

        I recall when in the academy in 1976, I spent a week riding at Firestone Station. On the first day, the deputy I was assigned to told me to break the gun down while we were by our radio car. I did so, ensuring the firing pin worked and the ammo would chamber properly.

        He asked for the gun and I passed it over the roof of the car to him. He had his finger off of the trigger and he also chambered a round to ensure it fed properly. It somehow discharged a round of 00 buck into the air.

        Everyone and I mean everyone, exited the station with their gun in their hand. One asked, "Did the cadet do it, did the cadet do it." I thought I was done right there. Deputy IV Nagaoka (years later, a Division Chief) took the gun and had a difficult time removing the remaining 3 rounds. Turns out the shotgun was defective and it wasn't the deputy's fault. Thank God I wasn't holding it when it discharged. Just a little Ithaca history.

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        • #49
          WyattandDoc
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2013
          • 767

          Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
          Wrong department!
          What are you talking about? What do you mean wrong department?
          Last edited by WyattandDoc; 11-06-2013, 6:40 PM.
          Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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          • #50
            a308garand
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 303

            LAPD switched over to the Remington 870 earlier than LASD. The LAPD shotguns sat idle for a bit until a deal was struck.

            LA City wanted wanted to have the old issued Ithaca shotguns ground up into scrap metal, rather than taking a chance on "LAPD" marked guns turning up in as used in a crime somewhere. Through some back chanel talks, LAPD found out that LASD would gladly take care of the shotguns, even sweetening the deal by giving them some old 870 shotguns in exchange.

            The LAPD shotguns found a new home at LASD and were slowly introduced into the department inventory. Without giving out the numbers of shotguns involved, it was a very very good exchange rate.

            The LAPD shotguns have a serial number starting with the year made, so you can date the shotgun.

            Most all the former stunbag shotguns (either LASD or LAPD) will have rifled barrels. So check before you throw buckshot down range.
            Fast forward a couple years, and LASD started the process of converting to the 870. So many of those shotguns saw use to some extent.

            Ithaca is in business and has every part needed to make any repairs your shotgun may need. Keep in mind there are two different sized receivers, so some internal parts can not be mixed...2 3/4 inch only and 3 inch sized receivers. Most of the "newer" vintage guns will be 3 inch receivers, but you gotta check.

            Enjoy your purchase
            Last edited by a308garand; 11-06-2013, 7:41 PM.
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            • #51
              WyattandDoc
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2013
              • 767

              Originally posted by a308garand
              LAPD switched over to the Remington 870 earlier than LASD. The LAPD shotguns sat idle for a bit until a deal was struck.

              LA City wanted wanted to have the old issued Ithaca shotguns ground up into scrap metal, rather than taking a chance on "LAPD" marked guns turning up in as used in a crime somewhere. Through some back chanel talks, LAPD found out that LASD would gladly take care of the shotguns, even sweetening the deal by giving them some old 870 shotguns in exchange.

              The LAPD shotguns found a new home at LASD and were slowly introduced into the department inventory. Without giving out the numbers of shotguns involved, it was a very very good exchange rate.

              The LAPD shotguns have a serial number starting with the year made, so you can date the shotgun.

              Most all the former stunbag shotguns (either LASD or LAPD) will have rifled barrels. So check before you throw buckshot down range.
              Fast forward a couple years, and LASD started the process of converting to the 870. So many of those shotguns saw use to some extent.

              Ithaca is in business and has every part needed to make any repairs your shotgun may need. Keep in mind there are two different sized receivers, so some internal parts can not be mixed...2 3/4 inch only and 3 inch sized receivers. Most of the "newer" vintage guns will be 3 inch receivers, but you gotta check.

              Enjoy your purchase
              I thought this was common knowledge, but I guess not. Good Info.

              My biggest regret yet is not buying my revolver!! I was the typical youngster unable to see around the corner. I would love to have that thing back.
              Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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              • #52
                a308garand
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 303

                Originally posted by WyattandDoc
                I thought this was common knowledge, but I guess not. Good Info.

                My biggest regret yet is not buying my revolver!! I was the typical youngster unable to see around the corner. I would love to have that thing back.
                Yep, hind sight is always 20/20. Since some of the later mod 15 revolvers were marked LASD, they were traded in for credit at Beretta with the understanding that they would not be resold within the USA.

                Sleep easy knowing that your revolver is probably still in service and keeping the peace somewhere in South America
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                • #53
                  CaptMike
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 1272

                  learn something new everyday
                  A life is not important, except for the impact it has on other lives- Jackie Robinson

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                  • #54
                    Gnome
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1693

                    Originally posted by WyattandDoc
                    I heard some of them have the LAPD stamp on them. I think that would be cool to have. Not sure how many were purchased from them, but the history of that will be pretty cool someday.
                    Wyatt, I'm an LA County Sheriff's Deputy. Not LAPD. Yes, there is history with both departments, but I want a piece of my department's history (see Ron's account of how many times he actually used an Ithaca on duty). Either way, it'll be a great purchase.
                    Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
                    Wrong department!
                    Exactly...

                    Originally posted by retired
                    Pitchess was the Sheriff the last time that happened.

                    That is hilarious! I heard he was quite the character. Quite the "Ladies Man." Lol. Also the inventor of Freeway Therapy.

                    I recall when in the academy in 1976, I spent a week riding at Firestone Station. On the first day, the deputy I was assigned to told me to break the gun down while we were by our radio car. I did so, ensuring the firing pin worked and the ammo would chamber properly.

                    He asked for the gun and I passed it over the roof of the car to him. He had his finger off of the trigger and he also chambered a round to ensure it fed properly. It somehow discharged a round of 00 buck into the air.

                    Everyone and I mean everyone, exited the station with their gun in their hand. One asked, "Did the cadet do it, did the cadet do it." I thought I was done right there. Deputy IV Nagaoka (years later, a Division Chief) took the gun and had a difficult time removing the remaining 3 rounds. Turns out the shotgun was defective and it wasn't the deputy's fault. Thank God I wasn't holding it when it discharged. Just a little Ithaca history.
                    That's awesome! LMAO!

                    Originally posted by WyattandDoc
                    What are you talking about? What do you mean wrong department?
                    We're Deps, not Officers.

                    Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                    During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

                    He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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                    • #55
                      Spec
                      Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 303

                      Originally posted by Samuelx
                      Hey Bobby and Spec, almost forgot to ask you - for your stunbag Ithacas, did they replace the rifled barrels with smooth bore before selling to you guys or are your barrels still rifled?

                      For those of you who have picked up - did you report to the main logistics counter (or where else) and what time would be the earliest you can line up?

                      Hey Gnome, I'll be on campus tomorrow (recruits in the gym and then CPT in the trailer) and Friday (dynamic scenario training) - come by and say wassap if you get a chance...
                      Rifled barrel. I actually got down there early and was the only one there for a solid 1/2 looking over the various guns. most were beat to heck. I am real happy with what i have and it seems to shoot pretty good. the yellow paint was a pain to get off but the gun finished up nice.
                      "You are at fault for questioning the approved narrative.".... Cannon

                      Illegitimi non carborundum

                      John 15:13


                      "Let us form one body, one heart, and defend to the last warrior our country, our homes, our liberty, and the graves of our fathers." Tecumseh

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                      • #56
                        Samuelx
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1558

                        Thanks Spec - quick question, what time would be considered early or what time would you recommend getting there?

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                        • #57
                          WyattandDoc
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 767

                          Originally posted by Gnome
                          Wyatt, I'm an LA County Sheriff's Deputy. Not LAPD. Yes, there is history with both departments, but I want a piece of my department's history (see Ron's account of how many times he actually used an Ithaca on duty). Either way, it'll be a great purchase.
                          [B]Exactly...



                          We're Deps, not Officers.
                          Sir,

                          I understand that, as am I. 28 years my friend. I was at Firestone with a few AD stories myself. I remember back in the day when we were insulted the department reduced itself to buying LAPD's guns. Some of them were stamped with LAPD on them and it made us sick. This is the true history of YOUR department. Maybe you should take some time to learn it before jumping up in my kitchen.

                          But now that I've grown up to appreciate history, I was simply saying it would now be cool to own one of the SG's with LAPD on it. A story I can tell my grandkids. Put the fangs away youngblood. Be safe.
                          Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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                          • #58
                            Gnome
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1693

                            Originally posted by WyattandDoc
                            Sir,

                            I understand that, as am I. 28 years my friend. I was at Firestone with a few AD stories myself. I remember back in the day when we were insulted the department reduced itself to buying LAPD's guns. Some of them were stamped with LAPD on them and it made us sick. This is the true history of YOUR department. Maybe you should take some time to learn it before jumping up in my kitchen.

                            But now that I've grown up to appreciate history, I was simply saying it would now be cool to own one of the SG's with LAPD on it. A story I can tell my grandkids. Put the fangs away youngblood. Be safe.
                            Jumping up in your kitchen? Fangs? Not at all... My apologies if taken the wrong way. One of the unfortunate consequences of online chat/text/typing. One can never really tell the tone.

                            "Fangs" safely retracted and sheathed

                            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                            During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

                            He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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                            • #59
                              WyattandDoc
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 767

                              Copy that Brother. I tell my kids to never have any meaningful conversations over texting or on-line, and I do it all the time...LOL

                              We're cool and now be extra safe!! Enjoy the SG!!! Shoot it with pride.
                              Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.

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                              • #60
                                Gnome
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 1693

                                Originally posted by WyattandDoc
                                Copy that Brother. I tell my kids to never have any meaningful conversations over texting or on-line, and I do it all the time...LOL

                                We're cool and now be extra safe!! Enjoy the SG!!! Shoot it with pride.
                                Will do. But, I have to get my hands on one first.

                                Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                                During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

                                He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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