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  • HardCharger619
    Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 144

    San Diego Transit System

    As big as San Diegos Transit sysyem is, why does it not have a sworn professional department laying the law down? Is it the cost? The city not thinking its necessary? Most big cities like Frisco Ny and Boston have sworn trained people protecting and serving. Just thought id ask.
  • #2
    P5Ret
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2010
    • 6381

    San Francisco does not have "transit police", it is all handled by SFPD. BART which is not part of San Francisco government, is a regional transit agency serving 4 and soon to be 5 counties has their own PD.

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    • #3
      CBR_rider
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 2710

      Ask the city of San Diego.... Other than that I don't know what to tell ya.
      Originally posted by bwiese
      [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
      Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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      • #4
        HardCharger619
        Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 144

        Originally posted by P5Ret
        San Francisco does not have "transit police", it is all handled by SFPD. BART which is not part of San Francisco government, is a regional transit agency serving 4 and soon to be 5 counties has their own PD.

        Well thats what I meant by Frisco having BART PD.

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        • #5
          Tacit Blue
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 4134

          Its because MTS owns the trolley system, its a semi quasi gov entity. Amtrak has Sworn officers, feds... But they have a much larger budget than MTS.

          The reason for MTS? Money.....They have unarmed code enforcement officers that check tickets. They're LE per penal code. They use armed guards because they want that company to take the liability of a shooting.

          They just fired heritage security for incorrectly handcuffing a disabled retired cop. Another company has taken over. Its all about liability, dont come after MTS with deep pockets. Go after security company.
          Last edited by Tacit Blue; 10-22-2013, 10:17 AM.
          "All that is complex is not useful. All that is useful is simple."
          Mikhail Kalashnikov *...

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          • #6
            SantaCabinetguy
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 15137

            Originally posted by HardCharger619
            Most big cities like Frisco Ny and Boston have sworn trained people protecting and serving. Just thought id ask.
            NYC Transit Police was absorbed by NYPD in the mid 90’s 2000s. They are now the Transit Bureau of the NYPD.
            Even LA’s MTA police was absorbed by LAPD/LASD in the 90’s.

            Many municipalities deal with the local transit enforcement and my guess would be for reasons from a cost perspective.
            IMO, it’s akin to how smaller cities contract out to the local sheriff.
            Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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            • #7
              HardCharger619
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 144

              Youd think the MTS could fund a small department maybe or pay the county to have the Deputies provide safety

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              • #8
                Tacit Blue
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 4134

                Originally posted by HardCharger619
                Youd think the MTS could fund a small department maybe or pay the county to have the Deputies provide safety
                They used to.. San Diego Sheriff's used to protect the railways, but they haven't renegotiated contract since 2000.


                Back to MTS its a liability game... They want to pass any bad juju to a security company, security company is lured in by multi-million dollar contracts.
                Last edited by Tacit Blue; 10-22-2013, 2:39 PM.
                "All that is complex is not useful. All that is useful is simple."
                Mikhail Kalashnikov *...

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                • #9
                  gunner336
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 686

                  Transit police

                  It is all about money. Even AMTRAK does not patrol the tracks that they travel on. They stay in the Main train station. Out on the rails away from the main station the Railroad Police handle the issues with the passenger trains. Railroad police have full police powers also.

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                  • #10
                    HardCharger619
                    Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 144

                    Originally posted by gunner336
                    It is all about money. Even AMTRAK does not patrol the tracks that they travel on. They stay in the Main train station. Out on the rails away from the main station the Railroad Police handle the issues with the passenger trains. Railroad police have full police powers also.

                    In case of a railroad heist! lol

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                    • #11
                      gunner336
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 686

                      Transit

                      yup they still happen. Straight up Armed robberies, hijacks. just not on horseback

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