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  • BenjaminCA
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 1461

    Pistol Training in LA Area

    I am looking for some pistol courses for LEO (scenario based, vehicle / close quarters shooting) in the LA area? Anyone know of some good training classes? I have been looking around I just figured I would put this up on here. Send me a link if you know of anything good!
    Somebody just back of you while you are fishing is as bad as someone looking over your shoulder while you write a letter to your girl. ~Ernest Hemingway
  • #2
    DFence
    • Feb 2012
    • 1368

    www.FTATV.com or www.Surefireinstitute.com

    Out in Corona but have course to fit any of your needs
    Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

    NRA Certified Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun/PPIH/PPOH Instructor | NRA Certified RSO | NRA Life Member | GSSF Life Time Member | Surefire Low Light Instructor | Glock Certified Armorer | Utah CCW Instructor | Nevada CCW Instructor

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    • #3
      Gnome
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 1693

      I've taken several courses with FTA. Bill Murphy is a wealth of knowledge, and good guy. Great sense of humour too. He offers some advanced/tactical courses, but I don't think he offers any scenario based courses. Call and ask. He does offer private courses and will customize them to your needs.

      ITTS offers several scenario based (vehicle stops) courses. LE only. A little more pricey, but I understand they are taught by active/retired LAPD SWAT/Metro.

      Black Rock training is a newcomer, but looks interesting. Ped Stop, CQB and Extreme CQB gun fighting scenarios.

      The Academy of St Crispian has several courses. One of which is called Combined Arms. Looks good. Instructor is a career Marine, brief LE career, and Marine Weapons Instructor. Seems knowledgeable.

      You can Yelp/YouTube all of the above for video footage and sneak peeks.

      Hope this helps.

      If your Dept is like mine, the best training you will receive, is the training you seek out and pay for yourself...

      Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
      During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

      He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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      • #4
        BenjaminCA
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 1461

        Yeah Gnome, with my department, if I don't look for proper training I wont get it. After the academy, we don't see pistol/rifle training other than range days (50 rounds, shoot the paper)!
        Somebody just back of you while you are fishing is as bad as someone looking over your shoulder while you write a letter to your girl. ~Ernest Hemingway

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        • #5
          Samuelx
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 1558

          Originally posted by Gnome
          If your Dept is like mine, the best training you will receive, is the training you seek out and pay for yourself...
          Hey, what are we, chopped liver??!! Are you near STARS? Have you come to any of our perishable skills/DT/MA/MMA workouts?

          If what you are saying is not to sit back and wait for our department to train you - I agree. If what you are saying is you can't find any good training on our department - I vehemently disagree. Many of our instructors are damn good at what they do. There are also many guys/gals on the department who are damn good but aren't assigned as full-time instructors and they train where they work too.

          (now this is to our department members/you in general) And, if you are more high speed low drag than your partners and/or instructors, what have you done/been doing to help improve your partners/our team? In case you didn't know, you can also get some pretty damn good experience volunteering/helping some of the specialized units train - roleplaying, padded suit, simunitions, etc. My unit offers free open training to our department members as well as outside agency personnel. If you're so good that I or my partners have nothing to offer you - then again, I ask, what have You done lately to help guys/gals around you improve?

          (Hey Ben, sorry to sidetrack!)
          Last edited by Samuelx; 07-19-2013, 12:45 PM.

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          • #6
            Gnome
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 1693

            Originally posted by Samuelx
            Hey, what are we, chopped liver??!! Are you near STARS? Have you come to any of our perishable skills workouts?
            Samuel,

            I was not even aware of a "Perishable Skills" workshop. I only knew of the BC Range time. Basically standing there and punching paper...

            I'm more interested in Combat Shooting. Reality based. No more "Ready on the right? Ready on the left? All ready on the firing line" for me.

            I'm not far from STARS. But stars doesn't have a range, other than the mobile range...

            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
            During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

            He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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            • #7
              DFence
              • Feb 2012
              • 1368

              I highly recommend you look into FTA or Surefire.

              They both offer a live fire shoot house, sims house working alone and with teams, advanced scenarios, low light force on force training. All with pistol, rifle, shotgun and smg.

              Surefire opened a range in Vegas as well if you want to take the trip for some auto weapons training.

              A lot of good stuff offered by these guys and a lot of LE and military get trained by them on a constant basis.
              Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

              NRA Certified Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun/PPIH/PPOH Instructor | NRA Certified RSO | NRA Life Member | GSSF Life Time Member | Surefire Low Light Instructor | Glock Certified Armorer | Utah CCW Instructor | Nevada CCW Instructor

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              • #8
                Samuelx
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 1558

                Hey Bro, gonna pm you

                PM sent
                Last edited by Samuelx; 07-19-2013, 12:59 PM.

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                • #9
                  003
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3436

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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44094

                    Another option is to start competing in some run 'n gun events. 3 gun, IDPA, etc. It'll end up being less expensive and more readily available.
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                    • #11
                      Gnome
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1693

                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      Another option is to start competing in some run 'n gun events. 3 gun, IDPA, etc. It'll end up being less expensive and more readily available.
                      I had also thought about doing this, but in my humble opinion, you would sacrifice tactics for speed.

                      Competition shooting is good if you want to get some trigger time. Not necessarily good for tactics and problem solving.
                      Last edited by Gnome; 07-19-2013, 12:57 PM. Reason: Spelling

                      Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                      During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

                      He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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                      • #12
                        IA300
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 255

                        Originally posted by Gnome
                        I had also thought about doing this, but in my humble opinion, you would sacrifice tactics for speed.

                        Competition shooting is good if you want to get some trigger time. Not necessarily good for tactics and problem solving.
                        I used to do IPSC, but I wouldn't "run and gun". I wasn't there to compete, I was there to hone my skills. So I never won anything, but I would pay my money, use their courses for my own tactical training. Taking my time and working through it at my pace, tactically (or as tactically as I thought I could be )

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                        • #13
                          CSACANNONEER
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 44094

                          Originally posted by Gnome
                          I had also thought about doing this, but in my humble opinion, you would sacrifice tactics for speed.

                          Competition shooting is good if you want to get some trigger time. Not necessarily good for tactics and problem solving.
                          It's far better than the old PPC matches I used to watch my dad shoot in. Boy, LEO training and tactics have sure changed since the late 70's.
                          NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
                          California DOJ Certified Fingerprint Roller
                          Ventura County approved CCW Instructor
                          Utah CCW Instructor


                          Offering low cost multi state CCW, private basic shooting and reloading classes for calgunners.

                          sigpic
                          CCW SAFE MEMBERSHIPS HERE

                          KM6WLV

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                          • #14
                            Gnome
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 1693

                            Originally posted by IA300
                            I used to do IPSC, but I wouldn't "run and gun". I wasn't there to compete, I was there to hone my skills. So I never won anything, but I would pay my money, use their courses for my own tactical training. Taking my time and working through it at my pace, tactically (or as tactically as I thought I could be )
                            If this is allowed, it would be a fun way to get some trigger time and hone skills...

                            Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                            During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

                            He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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