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  • Socaliente
    Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 183

    Pot groweries out of control

    My parents live in Unincorporated Nuevo and the groweries out there are spreading like crazy. Land is being bought up and make shift fences are being put up around acres of pot grows. Signs reading "No Transpass" are being put up on the fences. I have been informed that deputies in the area are well aware of the issue but are powerless because no judge will sign a warrant for grows. The hispanics that are running the grows are rude, arrogant, and claim they will continue to buy up and grow as much of the hill as they can. Numerous home owners have come into contact with these guys just digging around looking for where the water mains are on unsold land. They are growing right out in the open and all of the plants can be seen from the front of home owners houses.

    The home owners around the area want it stopped but are powerless to do so. This is not someone growing a couple plants in their closet. This is mass production over acres of unincorporated land. Ive noticed most busts involve the stealing of power or water. How do the home owners go about getting these places shut down?
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  • #2
    CessnaDriver
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 10892

    Video it and get to your local news station.


    "Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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    • #3
      56Chevy
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 1872

      Call the A-Team...or do what CessnaDriver said. Just be careful when recording. They probably won't be too nice if they see you doing it.

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      • #4
        1911su16b870
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        • Dec 2006
        • 7654

        Hit this...http://www.justice.gov/dea/ops/submit.shtml
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        • #5
          rolncode3
          Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 132

          The officers that go after grows and the cartels they work for, don't drive marked squad cars. Just because it isn't immediately torn up doesn't mean the black helicopters aren't loading up. It's worth making sure your local agency is aware, but this stuff is highly coordinated - because the investigations happen at several different levels.

          If grows get torn up in Mendocino you can be assured they'll get torn up almost anywhere in the state. It might not happen overnight though.

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          • #6
            Caddis
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 120

            Thank the people who voted for the medical marijuana nonsense and the liberal legislators who support it.

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            • #7
              ixta70
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 600

              Molotov cocktail! And then get the neighborhood high lmao

              But on a serious note that's ridiculous. They should at least do it away from people and have fencing that blocks view if the plants.


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              • #8
                ArtP88
                Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 413

                My comments probably belong in the off topic category, and I do apologize ahead of time...

                The tighter it's controlled, the more risky it is, the more it's worth, the more profit there is to be made. People trade risk for profit all day, every day, on levels you may have forgotten about.

                If it were completely legal, it would be no different than growing garden tomatoes. People would not feel compelled to complain and there would be no reason for large grows, no reason for armed illegals, no reason for resource stealing. Part of the problem, I believe, is a little bit of envy that those bold/stupid/desparate enough to grow it make an easy and profitable living by making the previously mentioned risk/profit tradeoff.

                I also have to ask -- isn't the right for one to grow what one wants, as important as your own to the gun hardware you want (hypothetically)? I don't find the drug and gun argument all that different, once dissected. There was some comment about the fact that it's "unsightly" and can be seen in plain view.

                For the record, I do not enjoy MJ but can see how criminalizing it creates far more problems than it solves. Not to mentions, stomps on rights.
                Last edited by ArtP88; 07-01-2013, 8:37 PM.

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                • #9
                  CBR_rider
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2749

                  One of the biggest farces in California history has been "medicinal marijuana." As a co-worker has described the California's legislature regarding their softening of marijuana laws while still keeping them on the books "**** or get off the pot." All medicinal marijuana laws have done in California is allowed marijuana grows to be done not only in remote locations but also in neighborhoods and semi-rural areas where innocent people can and do get caught in the middle of gang turf wars, drug-related home invasion robberies, etc.

                  To the OP, I feel sorry for your parents. In my dream world (that unfortunately included being in your parent's shoes for some reason), I would pitch in with the neighbors to hire a crop duster with herbicide one night.... In the real world, I would piss and moan to county supervisors, the narcotics unit, code enforcement, any environmental agency if there are concerns re: chemicals in waterways, and I'd discreetly video the traffic.
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                  Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                  • #10
                    America's Least Wanted
                    Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 178

                    So what is the actual problem?

                    I've known guys "digging for water mains" on land they are thinking of buying, just to make sure they are there and "live".

                    Are they busting pipes and leaving you without water?

                    Have you called the Feds, since MJ still illegal under Fed law? (of course Obama Admin will be "hands off" when it comes to Mex Drug Gangs terrorizing American home owners).

                    Been a while, but isn't impossible to grow decent weed in open outdoors because for good weed you DON"T want the plants pollinating??? You get hella nice big seeds, but crappy near worthless "herbage".

                    Did they finally breed plants that do good in outdoor open grows?


                    Of course you COULD hire a crop duster with "Agent Orange", but you would be tracked down (crop duster ain't like a stolen shopping cart) and at the least be sued by property owners and maybe jailed by State for illegal spraying (causing erosion, etc).

                    Are these guys on land they OWN and are "arrogant"???



                    Personally, I'm OK with legal pot, but this State VS Fed vagueness is nothing but trouble and opens it for all sorts of SELECTIVE enforcement and corruption.

                    So the cops won't shut it down, but it is still 'big money' but they wont protect it as "legit biz" so you gotta have "hired guns" to keep the 'bad guys' off your drug crops? Third World Hell here we come.

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                    • #11
                      Gnome
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1693

                      Originally posted by Caddis
                      Thank the people who voted for the medical marijuana nonsense and the liberal legislators who support it.
                      Pretty much this.
                      Originally posted by artpreusser
                      The tighter it's controlled, the more risky it is, the more it's worth, the more profit there is to be made. People trade risk for profit all day, every day, on levels you may have forgotten about.

                      If it were completely legal, it would be no different than growing garden tomatoes. People would not feel compelled to complain and there would be no reason for large grows, no reason for armed illegals, no reason for resource stealing. Part of the problem, I believe, is a little bit of envy that those bold/stupid/desparate enough to grow it make an easy and profitable living by making the previously mentioned risk/profit tradeoff.

                      I also have to ask -- isn't the right for one to grow what one wants, as important as your own to the gun hardware you want (hypothetically)? I don't find the drug and gun argument all that different, once dissected. There was some comment about the fact that it's "unsightly" and can be seen in plain view.

                      For the record, I do not enjoy MJ but can see how criminalizing it creates far more problems than it solves. Not to mentions, stomps on rights.
                      There's a lot of nonsense in this post. Those that say legalizing MJ do not know the science behind the drug itself, and how it affects the body. Do we really want public officials and employees walking around baked? School bus drivers, waste management, Caltrans, Nurses)...

                      Those that say legalize it, and cut out the middle man (Drug Cartels) don't know how Organized Crime works. Drug Cartels are NOT going to be undercut on their biggest cash crop. Yes, MJ is their biggest cash crop, not Cocaine/Heroin. MJ is actually what funds their Cocaine/Heroin trade. They will NOT lose this.

                      Call the Feds? Not so much. The Feds washed their hands of California and its retarded Medicinal MJ laws a long time ago. They pretty much said, MJ is a Schedule I drug (highly addictive and no medicinal value) and illegal. However, Ca. if you want to let your state go to crap, go ahead.

                      Originally posted by E Pluribus Unum
                      During Y2K my neighbor and I were talking and he said he had a basement full of water and canned food. He asked if I had stocked up and I said that I had. I told him I bought a 12 guage shotgun, a .308 rifle and several bricks of .22 ammo.

                      He is an anti-gun guy and he said. "Well, you can't eat ammunition". I replied with "When I'm starving to death with a case of ammunition, who's door do you think I am going to knock on?"

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                      • #12
                        TrailerparkTrash
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4249

                        Originally posted by ixta70
                        Molotov cocktail! And then get the neighborhood high lmao
                        That's what I was thinking. Bon fire, then a big neighborhood BBQ.
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                        • #13
                          CBR_rider
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2749

                          Originally posted by TrailerparkTrash
                          That's what I was thinking. Bon fire, then a big neighborhood BBQ.
                          But who's bringing the Cheetos?
                          Originally posted by bwiese
                          [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                          Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                          • #14
                            Dutch3
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 14181

                            It is getting crazy around here, too. The county has an ordinance regulating medicinal grows and I'm sure some of the growers are legit and following the law. Others obviously are not, due to numbers of permitted plants, requirements for a legal residence on the property, water supply, etc.

                            The ordinance contains the stipulation that unlawful grows will be handled on a complaint basis, and anyone filing such a complaint must live within 1500 feet of the grow site.

                            It is becoming a concern as people are starting to turn up missing, dead or shot in conjunction with these operations.
                            Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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                            • #15
                              Ericb760
                              Banned
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2013
                              • 420

                              This is what happens when you try to make a native plant illegal. And btw, plenty of nurses, lawyers, cops, and Caltrans workers smoke a little pot now and then. The problem is not the plant itself, it's users, or even it's effects. It is the droconian laws that contribute to the crime associated with marijuana. I find it ironic that those that scream about gun rights cannot or will not see the similarities with the marijuana rights argument. If you have a "right" to own a firearm, do you not also have the right to safely consume any substance, be it alcohol, caffiene, nicotine, or marijuana?

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