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  • #16
    ls2monaro
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 601

    Originally posted by IrishJoe3
    Actually......I wasn't kidding, and not sure why its odd. I COULD get the 10 day waiver letter, but have never bothered.
    I think he was referring to you buying a neutered rifle when most agencies authorize the "raw". I understand some agencies still don't and it's too bad their respective leo union doesn't push for it.

    I have done the 10 day wait myself a few times and regret it each time lol!
    Last edited by ls2monaro; 06-21-2013, 7:28 PM.

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    • #17
      Invisible_Dave
      Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 269

      Also exempt from the 1 every 30 day rule.
      The Internet; where men are men, women are men, and kids are FBI agents.

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      • #18
        IrishJoe3
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 3804

        Originally posted by ls2monaro
        I think he was referring to you buying a neutered rifle when most agencies authorize the "raw". I understand some agencies still don't and it's too bad their respective leo union doesn't push for it.

        I have done the 10 day wait myself a few times and regret it each time lol!
        Oh. Yeah. I'd LOVE a RAW, buuuut, thats not going to happen
        Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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        • #19
          CBR_rider
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 2720

          I don't get a RAW either at my department because I am issued an AR-15.... She doesn't get to come home with me and stays in the safe at work. And I have never bothered getting a letter to avoid the 10 day waiting period. And I don't buy more than one handgun every 30 days...

          So other than the fact that I can buy magazines of any capacity and off roster guns straight from the local gun store my experiences are pretty much like every other legal gun owner in this fine state.
          Originally posted by bwiese
          [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
          Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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          • #20
            CalCop
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 573

            Do you really need a letter to get an AR?

            There's always this:
            In the case of People v. Drew Peterson, Case No. 08 CF 1169 (Oct. 1, 2010), by Judge Richard Schoenstedt of the 12th Judicial Circuit of the State of Illinois. Question: Whether or not the defendant, a police officer, could be charged with felony unlawful use of a weapon given the implications of the Federal LEOSA legislation passed into law in 2004. Will County prosecutors in May of 2008 had charged Mr. Peterson with felony unlawful use of a weapon, contending he had illegally modified the rifle (Colt Sporter) by shortening the barrel. Judge Schoenstedt said LEOSA precluded charging the defendant with the felony weapons charge.

            In his opinion, the judge wrote that:The State is essentially requesting this Court to assume or infer that the drafters intended to provide immunity only for State sanctioned weapons. http://www.policelawblog.com/blog/20...ns-charge.html

            So, here we have a modified AR which is a felony to possess in gun-hating Illinois. The judge says LEOSA makes the state law null and void for cops. Anybody wanna be the California test case? ...I don't.
            Last edited by CalCop; 06-22-2013, 10:07 AM.
            "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
            -- Sir Robert Peel

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            • #21
              cr250chevy
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 864

              Originally posted by penciljockey
              I find that really odd.
              Many have to wait 10 days for my guns. Many too must have a bullet button. Many too must have 10 Round mags in their AR.
              Some can go threw the hoops of getting the 10 days waived but its not worth the labor...

              Contrary to popular believe, LEOs are NOT exempt from most gun laws as many people believe.

              There is ZERO chance of many not getting a personal "Patrol Rifle."

              The ONLY benefit some get are that the roster does not apply, nor does the high capacity mag ban.

              This isn't that great tho due to the LACK of INVENTORY at gun stores for LEO exempt stuff. Why would they carry a on hand stock of something that only a small percentage can buy?
              Last edited by cr250chevy; 11-25-2013, 10:40 PM.

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              • #22
                AR15Man
                Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 116

                Originally posted by CalCop
                off-roster guns and full capacity mags no longer require a letter...just your ID.


                Policy Change Regarding State Exemptions for Authorized Peace Officers
                "Effective immediately, peace officers who have legislative authority to carry and use firearms may, without a letter signed by the head of their agency or the agency head's designee, purchase non-rostered handguns and/or large capacity magazines. The peace officer must present a valid peace officer identification card and the dealer must retain a copy of the identification card on file. (PC 12132 & 12133). A letter is still required from the head of the agency to exempt the peace officer from the ten day waiting period. (PC 12078)."
                http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/exemptpo.php
                Does anyone know when this CA. AG Policy Change was issued.

                It states "effective immediately" but on the website isn't date stamped.

                Thanks

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