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  • laylow
    Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 130

    Background Investigation

    I recently applied for a police officer trainee position with OPD; however, I'm a little worried about my past. How far back do most background investigators check? The most recent of the two instances was 17 years ago, and the the other instance was almost 24 years ago. Is this something that I should be worried about? I'm a little reluctant to post the details, but I will pm you if you can advise.
    Thanks!
  • #2
    CalCop
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 573

    Depends on what it was.
    "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
    -- Sir Robert Peel

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    • #3
      trob
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 1881

      well, they ask about everything you've EVER done....and polygraph you about it..... so, that would include 17 years ago

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      • #4
        diverwcw
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 2693

        Best to disclose it than let them make a decision based on your current life. If you are deceptive, you are automatically out of the running. Plus, they can terminate you anytime down the road if they find you lied on your background package.

        If OPD washes you out, keep on applying to other agencies.
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        • #5
          Falconis
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1688

          well you're gonna have to tell someone what you did to get a better answer than I don't know

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          • #6
            Marty33
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 260

            Just disclose it. I guarantee you they will find it. They talked to people I never thought they would talk to, and discovered minor incidents (school fistfights, etc) that I had forgotten about. No one is perfect, but if you lie on your app and are DQ'd for dishonesty, you will never work as a cop in this state.

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            • #7
              fal_762x51
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 2708

              Never lie. You will get black listed.
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              • #8
                Caddis
                Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 120

                If it's of a criminal nature it will be on your rap sheet, however, if it's a minor criminal offense it may not be becasue certain offense are not reported to NCIC. One of the questions on your background is if you had police contacts. They usually check local agencies where you lived for contacts even if it did not rise to the level of a crime. This is where detentions will show up since they are not reported as an arrest. Traffic tickets usually only matter based on your current driving history. DUI's are okay if a lot of years have gone by and it was a one time event. You have to show you learned from your mistakes and time shows this.

                Other than this since you did not give any details, if it's drug use, there are no standards and every agency has their own criteria. If a few minor things happened a long time ago, and you did not repeat this behavior for many years after, it will probably not be a big deal.

                I find squeaky clean applicants sort of suspicous anyway and look harder at them looking for the lie.

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                • #9
                  Regaberto
                  Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 181

                  Tell the truth. Most likely their going to find out about it anyways and if you lie your no good to them. It's best to disclose everything up front and let them judge. When I was hired they asked for any criminal charges, there was no time table. I've heard for minor things like smoking pot a few times they do have a timetable and will hire you if was so many years ago. A lot goes into your background.

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                  • #10
                    IA300
                    Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 255

                    Originally posted by Marty33
                    Just disclose it. I guarantee you they will find it. They talked to people I never thought they would talk to, and discovered minor incidents (school fistfights, etc) that I had forgotten about. No one is perfect, but if you lie on your app and are DQ'd for dishonesty, you will never work as a cop in this state.
                    This ^^^ Disclose it and explain it. There are two major things you can be fired for, one is dishonesty the other is insubordination.
                    If you choose not to disclose and they find it, kings X for them and any other agency. I say that because usually one of the questions in the background packet is if you have applied at any other agency. They will talk to each other.
                    It's in the past and you have not repeated the behavior (hopefully) , so that is more important than not disclosing and them finding it.

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                    • #11
                      Petro6golf
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 1309

                      Read the bg packett carefully. Some of them say "have you EVER" and some say "In the last 10 years" or "since you were 18". Just disclose it. if its no big deal and its old then its no big deal and its old. If its something major they will dq you weather you tell them or not. better to tell them than not, get caught and ruin your career.

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                      • #12
                        code33
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 971

                        Look at the PHS form for peace officers for some of the things you will have to disclose.
                        Page with links to POST and State forms
                        Disclaimer:
                        I am not a lawyer. Nothing in my posts should be considered legal advice.

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                        • #13
                          laylow
                          Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 130

                          There's no doubt that I will be completely honest, and disclose everything I can remember from my past. Wish me luck! Thanks again guys!!

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                          • #14
                            laylow
                            Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 130

                            Originally posted by code33
                            Look at the PHS form for peace officers for some of the things you will have to disclose.
                            http://www.post.ca.gov/forms.aspx
                            This is a great link!!

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                            • #15
                              TapRackBang
                              Member
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 153

                              Be honest, but have some common sense as well.

                              I'll just say that people have gone to prison for admitting to felonies during the background check process. True story.
                              One mind, any weapon.

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