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  • #16
    Pappy22
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 60

    You can call for whatever the heck you want do, doesn't mean cops will get dispatched. Even if they do, they would probably read the call and determine it isn't a police matter. You'd get more results telling the guy he is a deadbeat for blowing smoke in his kids face.

    Bottom line.. waste of time. But if it helps you sleep at night then go ahead and call for whatever you want.

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    • #17
      subrvin
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 1210

      We should all do what we feel is right, regardless of whether it is right or wrong, it is our own conscious that we have to live with.

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      • #18
        DFence
        • Feb 2012
        • 1368

        Originally posted by Dantedamean
        I'm surprised here, I developed asthma because my POS dad was too damn lazy to not smoke around me as a child. Don't you prolife guys think a kid has a right to not grow up with screwed up lungs because of sh*tty parents?
        Agreed, but where does one draw the line of who can tell you what and how to live your life, raise your kids or what you can and can't own.

        Nobody wants the government to be able to tell us how many rounds our magazines can hold or what type of weapons we can own, but they are saying its to protect the children that are the helpless victims. We call bull on that right? Why doesn't the same thought process apply here?

        His kid, his choice, not our business. As it maybe morally wrong, his morals may different than yours. Who are we to tell him his way is wrong because it's not our way?

        Personally I think he's a pos for subjecting his kid to that.
        Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

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        • #19
          NuGunner
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 705

          Originally posted by DFence
          Lucky for him he was walking down the street smoking then.
          Even then it'd have to be observed first hand.

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          • #20
            nothinghere2c
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 2259

            bad call.

            dude could be a fantastic parent with just a smoking problem so he's trying to do it outdoors if anything.

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            • #21
              SonofWWIIDI
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 21583

              At least he wasn't letting his kid do this:
              Sorry, not sorry.
              🎺

              Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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              • #22
                johnthomas
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2009
                • 7001

                Originally posted by subrvin
                We should all do what we feel is right, regardless of whether it is right or wrong, it is our own conscious that we have to live with.
                I agree. The OP did what he felt what was right. I have called CPS on people with signs begging for food for their kids they have sitting out in the sun.
                I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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                • #23
                  johnthomas
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 7001

                  Originally posted by subrvin
                  We should all do what we feel is right, regardless of whether it is right or wrong, it is our own conscious that we have to live with.
                  I agree. The OP did what he felt what was right. I have called CPS on people with signs begging for food for their kids they have sitting out in the sun.

                  Children face a greater risk than adults of the negative effects of secondhand smoke. When the air is tainted with cigarette smoke, young, developing lungs receive a higher concentration of inhaled toxins than do older lungs because a child's breathing rate is faster than that of adults. Adults breathe in and out approximately 14 to 18 times a minute, and newborns can breathe as many as 60 times a minute. Up until a child is about 5 years old, the respiratory rate is quite fast.

                  Young children have little control over their surroundings. Babies can't move to another room because the air is smoky. They depend on the adults in their lives to make sure their environment is safe.

                  Scientists have uncovered numerous risks associated with secondhand smoke for young children and the research continues. To date, there are plenty of sobering facts about how this toxic air damages the health of our kids.
                  I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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                  • #24
                    CityHunt3r
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 933

                    Well maybe there should be a law to prevent such acts. Exposing a child to cigarette smoke is obviously a health hazard, IMO a form of child abuse. Even if he has a smoking problem, you need to put your kids needs before your own, ESPECIALLY in this situation. Wouldn't be a bad idea if he quit smoking all together.


                    As far as calling the pd, well at least you made an effort to intervein with good intentions for that child.

                    You can't compare that to calling the cops and telling them some one has a gun on them, come on....

                    Ultimately there probably isn't a law against what this father is doing, but I still think op trying to help doesn't mean it's a fail.

                    Your okay in my book OP!

                    Maybe if some of you had kids you would be better able to understand or empathize...
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                    • #25
                      jeremiah12
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 2065

                      Originally posted by Dantedamean
                      I'm surprised here, I developed asthma because my POS dad was too damn lazy to not smoke around me as a child. Don't you prolife guys think a kid has a right to not grow up with screwed up lungs because of sh*tty parents?
                      Same here. Consider though that making another to fix this has resulted in our Nanny state. It is for the children. What about exposure to the smoke resulting from exploding gunpowder? That toxic mix is not good for children's lungs. Some would argue that there is no safe lead exposure level for children. Firing lead bullets always results in vaporized lead particles.

                      Be careful what you ask because that logic can be used to regulate your behavior and choices.

                      Not all parents are the greatest. We do need to protect kids from the worst parents. But if the parent is not engaging in an illegal behavior and the child is not in an immediate danger, mind your own business. If you feel you have to make a report, call CPS. In most places, LE is too busy with real life threatening emergencies that by the time an officer is available to make contact, the person is long gone.
                      Anyone can look around and see the damage to the state and country inflicted by bad politicians.

                      A vote is clearly much more dangerous than a gun.

                      Why advocate restrictions on one right (voting) without comparable restrictions on another (self defense) (or, why not say 'Be a U.S. citizen' as the requirement for CCW)?

                      --Librarian

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                      • #26
                        gogohopper
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 4733

                        I carried mine like that all the time
                        BUT
                        I used this! Never got hassled by the PoPo once.

                        Originally posted by Webologist
                        I am in a sympathy-free zone as well. A leftist brown shirt reaping what he sowed after profiting from it is sweet justice indeed.

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                        • #27
                          Dantedamean
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2293

                          Originally posted by DFence
                          Agreed, but where does one draw the line of who can tell you what and how to live your life, raise your kids or what you can and can't own.

                          Nobody wants the government to be able to tell us how many rounds our magazines can hold or what type of weapons we can own, but they are saying its to protect the children that are the helpless victims. We call bull on that right? Why doesn't the same thought process apply here?

                          His kid, his choice, not our business. As it maybe morally wrong, his morals may different than yours. Who are we to tell him his way is wrong because it's not our way?

                          Personally I think he's a pos for subjecting his kid to that.
                          Guns and cigarette smoke are completely different, you can't get a black lung from simply sitting next to a gun and you can't get a hole in your chest from standing in the wrong spot while someone is smoking.

                          I suppose all the people saying mind your own business would say the same if a child gets a contact high from pot? It's his kid after all, he should be able to raise them however he wants.

                          I hate overbearing government as much as anyone, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. There are situations where laws are not all ways a bad thing.

                          Edit: wow never make a post and talk to someone at the same time, they come out horribly incoherent lol.
                          Last edited by Dantedamean; 06-05-2013, 11:56 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Zedrek
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1812

                            Sun exposure can lead to skin cancer. Should we call the cops every time we see a parent outside with their children? Don't get me wrong, I think the guy is wrong for exposing his kid to the smoke but ultimately it isn't a crime and I don't want the government telling us what to do anymore than necessary.
                            sigpic10mm collector

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                            • #29
                              Petro6golf
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 1309

                              Are you serious? Stay in your lane and worry about you. Its not illegal to be a crappy parent. Sounds like having smoke blown is his face is the least of that kids problems.

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                              • #30
                                db42
                                Senior Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 1574

                                Originally posted by meeestirg
                                i used the non-emergency line to call the cops on a guy walking his baby down the street.

                                the baby wasn't old enough to walk or talk. the baby was being held in his left arm and held about face level with the man. in the other hand he had a cigarette and smoking it. i don't have kids or anything but i was just concerned for the baby's health.

                                who should i have called?

                                thanks for your input.
                                You called the police because the guy was smoking near his kid?
                                What is wrong with you?

                                Reminds me of this:


                                Not only isn't it any of your business, it's not any of the police's business; and there's nothing they can do about it. If you accomplished anything, the police will likely ignore calls from your number after this.
                                I use to be an anarchist but I quit that; there's too many rules.

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