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  • safewaysecurity
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2010
    • 6166

    LEO Drug Testing

    How often are LEOs drug tested? How are the tests performed? Are they testing only for psychoactive compounds or anything that's not supposed to be in your body?
    Last edited by retired; 05-25-2013, 3:23 PM. Reason: Edited part not germane to two questions
    Originally posted by cudakidd
    I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
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  • #2
    BlueVue
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    • Aug 2011
    • 49

    There's no such thing as a "Drug Test". There are tests for specific chemicals, and each chemical you test for raises the price of doing the test. Which means they probably only test for the drugs they care about; meth, coke, pot, LSD, etc... a cop caught taking steroids is far less of a PR/liability problem than one on meth (and also probably much less likely).
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    • #3
      Ron-Solo
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2009
      • 8581

      My former Department ran a very wide screen, and steroid use was part of the screen.
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      • #4
        constable
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 749

        Originally posted by Ron-Solo
        My former Department ran a very wide screen, and steroid use was part of the screen.
        They usually cover this, but will it catch the various forms of human growth hormone.... etc. Most likely not.
        Last edited by retired; 05-25-2013, 3:24 PM.
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        • #5
          CBR_rider
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 2710

          You know what they say about assuming...

          I know my agency uses a pretty wide net as well for drug screening but the number of screens performs varies on assignment/other factors.
          Originally posted by bwiese
          [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
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          • #6
            SVT-40
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2008
            • 12902

            Every agency will have different rules when testing can occur. Some have "random" testing where others will have "good cause" testing. "Good cause" is where a supervisor has reasonable suspicion based on articulable facts that the officer is under the influence.
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            • #7
              constable
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 749

              Originally posted by CBR_rider
              You know what they say about assuming...

              I know my agency uses a pretty wide net as well for drug screening but the number of screens performs varies on assignment/other factors.
              True about assuming and all. I am by no means, advocating someone try HGH or any other form of steroid; especially if you are a part of the law enforcement community.
              NEVER TAKE ANYTHING I SAY FOR LEGAL ADVICE. CONSULT AN ATTORNEY BEFORE RISKING YOUR FREEDOM... EVEN THEN IT'S YOUR FREEDOM. NOT YOUR ATTORNEY'S FREEDOM. PROCEED WITH YOUR DECISIONS AT YOUR OWN RISK.

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              • #8
                safewaysecurity
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2010
                • 6166

                I've heard that you can't test HGH through piss tests. How ofte are they performed usually?
                Originally posted by cudakidd
                I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
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                • #9
                  esy
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1191

                  Originally posted by safewaysecurity
                  I've heard that you can't test HGH through piss tests. How ofte are they performed usually?
                  Correct. hGH is detected through blood testing. At the same time though, hGH can easily be cycled on and off if done properly. The argument that the Mayweather camp has against Pacquiao since much of sports, PEDs testing is a joke.

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                  • #10
                    Falconis
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1688

                    soo why the question? thinking of joining a department then going hog wild or you just waiting on someone to get in trouble?

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                    • #11
                      Ron-Solo
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8581

                      Well, my guess is that LASD tests for HGH since we fire a few guys a year for using it.

                      I served papers on two guys that worked my division that were terminated for steroids.

                      In addition to random testing, they can test for cause.
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                      • #12
                        tyrist
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 4564

                        Randomly tested 3 times a year plus more if it's directed testing for something specific. The new hires can be randomly tested 6 times till they make probation. It's all urine testing and two samples are taken with one used and one stored. The screening is for the big stuff like opiates, meth, cocaine, LSD, etc. The steroid testing is directed and not done on the random tests is my understanding.

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                        • #13
                          safewaysecurity
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 6166

                          Originally posted by Falconis
                          soo why the question? thinking of joining a department then going hog wild or you just waiting on someone to get in trouble?
                          Just curious mostly. I've always wondered this because of this Ronnie Coleman video mostly. His Department obviously knows he's illegally taking steroids as many of the steroids he's taking are not even prescribed by doctors and are for use in livestock. It seems they don't care that he's on tons of juice. I personally would think that police departments would want their deputies especially those that are in rough neighborhoods where they have to deal with arresting big dudes, on the juice.
                          Originally posted by cudakidd
                          I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
                          ^

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                          • #14
                            Ron-Solo
                            In Memoriam
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 8581

                            Due to the "roid rage" associated with steroid use, I can't think of any department sanctioning their use.

                            I work a lot of tough areas in my career. Being "big" is often more of a hindrance than a help. I had a partner who was 6'9" and in excellent physical shape. I got in more fights because of him. He attracted every 5'2" drunk with a little mans complex who wanted to fight him.
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                            • #15
                              Pryde
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2506

                              From my experiences in the military and seeing what my command was doing to try to catch steroid users, it is extremely hard to do so.
                              From what I know the steroid test is expensive and its hard to catch people unless you do it within a day or two of injection.

                              The frustrating thing about juicers is that it is pretty obvious who is doing it, but proving it is hard.

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