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  • morfeeis
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 7605

    can and should i file a report

    Long story short, well as short as i can make it My father who was a vet died last month after fighting cancer for 3 years. in his last six months of treatment he moved to AZ from palmdale ca to seek better care. When he left his home in November he let a Family member stay in one room of the house, they said they would pay to rent that one room. Being the scum that they are he never saw one dime and after he left for AZ, they changed the locks on the doors, bolted the garage door shut, chained the lock for the side gate and took over the whole house. on the 1st of last month my mother gave them a 30 day notice to leave they said they would. (here is where the question comes in)

    yesterday the 30 days expired, so me and my brother went by to make sure the home was vacant. We knocked on the door for a while and got no response, there was a car in the driveway but she didn't own a car. There was also no sound coming from inside. So we made entry through the sliding glass door at the back of the home. As soon as we made entry we announced who we were and called out to see if anyone was there. 5 seconds later the squatter came running down the stairs screaming like a cat with it's tail set on fire. Our first statement was we didn't know if anyone was still here and "when are you leaving"? she said never, get out of my house .

    trying to keep it short but a lot happened in a few seconds.
    18 year old son threatened me "i'll fing kick you ***"
    I was told they are buying drugs in MY DAD'S DRIVEWAY! (drug delivery men)
    They have no running water and there is a 4or5 year old little girl staying there
    as we were leaving the scum bag pothead son slammed the door on my foot and it was sore for a while.

    Should i call CPS
    Can i file an assault charge and or a terrorist threat charge?
    Would writing a letter to the homes around my fathers home letting them know what is going on get me in any trouble?
    With my mother being in the process of trying to get them evicted play any role in filing a report?

    Thanks guys.....
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    Originally posted by Ayn Rand
    You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.
  • #2
    Samuelx
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1558

    Confirming this is happening in Palmdale and not AZ? You can get a second opinion from Palmdale Station (assuming they handle that neighborhood).

    Right now, sounds all civil. Definitely expedite the eviction process. Hopefully get them caught in something arrestable/jailable. Might be worth calling DCFS but they may or may not have success actually contacting this family and checking the welfare of...

    Probably can't file anything but you never know. Here's what they could claim - they were invited in by your father and were allowed to stay as long as they desired, your father said they could have the house after he passed, they thought you were burglars/home invaders so they didn't make themselves known, you broke into Their home, you threatened them first, you assaulted them first, they only reacted with the threat of violence to get you to leave their home, the door accidentally struck your foot on your way out, etc.

    I see nothing wrong with asking your father's neighborhood friends to keep an eye on/report suspicious/criminal activity...

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    • #3
      DARTGUY
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 68

      Do they have a written agreement from your father? If so an eviction is your best bet. If not I would get a rental agreement from mother and start moving in. Have the sheriff there when you show up with the moving truck. Your contract would overrule their squatters rights.
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      • #4
        yzErnie
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        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Mar 2007
        • 6309

        I find you coming into the LEO forum and asking for some help so ironic.
        The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

        Originally posted by RazoE
        I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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        • #5
          gogohopper
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 4733

          Anon drug tip

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          I am in a sympathy-free zone as well. A leftist brown shirt reaping what he sowed after profiting from it is sweet justice indeed.

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          • #6
            diverwcw
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 2693

            Your best option is to seek legal advice from an attorney, particularly one who specializes in eviction.
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            • #7
              ptusa
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 860

              They are house guests...

              Not tenants or squatters.

              That being said, following the formal eviction process may be your best bet. Have you posted a written notice?

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              • #8
                SVT-40
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2008
                • 12907

                You should have called the cops the day you were at the house to stand by and keep the peace while you entered....If you go there again call and have the cops be a witness to the contact between you and the squatters.
                Poke'm with a stick!


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                • #9
                  chillincody
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 2675

                  Originally posted by SVT-40
                  You should have called the cops the day you were at the house to stand by and keep the peace while you entered....If you go there again call and have the cops be a witness to the contact between you and the squatters.
                  this ^^

                  would of been my first thought after they told me no leave my house I would of called and had them hauled off for trespassing
                  Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764

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                  • #10
                    Falconis
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1688

                    Originally posted by yzernie
                    I find you coming into the LEO forum and asking for some help so ironic.
                    Happens to everyone eventually. The internet is just another avenue for someone to call for help.

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                    • #11
                      morfeeis
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 7605

                      Originally posted by ptusa
                      Have you posted a written notice?
                      On the 1st March

                      Originally posted by Samuelx
                      Confirming this is happening in Palmdale and not AZ? You can get a second opinion from Palmdale Station (assuming they handle that neighborhood).

                      Right now, sounds all civil. Definitely expedite the eviction process. Hopefully get them caught in something arrestable/jailable. Might be worth calling DCFS but they may or may not have success actually contacting this family and checking the welfare of...

                      Probably can't file anything but you never know. Here's what they could claim - they were invited in by your father and were allowed to stay as long as they desired, your father said they could have the house after he passed, they thought you were burglars/home invaders so they didn't make themselves known, you broke into Their home, you threatened them first, you assaulted them first, they only reacted with the threat of violence to get you to leave their home, the door accidentally struck your foot on your way out, etc.

                      I see nothing wrong with asking your father's neighborhood friends to keep an eye on/report suspicious/criminal activity...
                      yes this did happen in CA and man that sucks

                      Originally posted by SVT-40
                      You should have called the cops the day you were at the house to stand by and keep the peace while you entered....If you go there again call and have the cops be a witness to the contact between you and the squatters.
                      I did call, they told me they will not get involved unless i have an order from the courts. But this was after i was outside my dads house..

                      Thanks for the info guys, just looks like we get to pay the mortage for these scum bags and pay for a lawyer while they get more crap for free.
                      ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
                      Originally posted by Ayn Rand
                      You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.

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                      • #12
                        Yugo
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 8382

                        Sorry to hear about your dad, my thoughts are with you.

                        If it was me I would call and report them to EVERY agency that I could find. Best of luck brother.
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                        Umm yeah!!!!!

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                        • #13
                          Spyder
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 17230

                          Originally posted by yzernie
                          I find you coming into the LEO forum and asking for some help so ironic.
                          Oooo! What thread do I need to look in to see what you're talking about?

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                          • #14
                            jaysen
                            Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 380

                            Originally posted by Spyder
                            Oooo! What thread do I need to look in to see what you're talking about?
                            +1

                            The phrase; Hate us until you need us,comes to mind


                            Back on topic, the question has been answered by a couple posters. If these people really wanted to, they could give you a run for your money and potentially stay in this house longer than needed. Your best bet is contact the governing agency (i.e. LASD), get their opinion of the matter and see if they can do a knock and talk with the tenants - at minimum just to keep the peace. If they refuse to leave then definitely start looking in to obtaining a lawyer....

                            Good luck.

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                            • #15
                              TRICKSTER
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 12438

                              Report them to CPS. They will show up with a militarized SWAT team and serve a no-knock warrant on the squatters.

                              Seriously, good luck getting them out, your going to need it.


                              Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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