80% ar lowers

[tcadams85@hotmail.com]

Simple question for you Leo's. What do you do when you come across someone with an 80% lower that is finished. If this is already a thread I apologize.

[CBR_rider]

I haven't

[vliberatore]

Shouldn't be any different than possession of any other lower

[KD714]

Haven't come across one yet.

[Yugo]

in the big picture most people do not know what an 80% is so many people dont have them.`and i would safely say that most if not all LEO on this board are not your typical LEO that are clueless about them so you most likely will not get the information you seek. Just cary a copy of the PC code with you/rifle (hopefully some one can post it) and know the law.

[tcadams85@hotmail.com]

Thank you any other information is greatly appreciated I just want to know how to approach the situation in the correct manner

[micro911]

I have seen one that was assembled as a complete rifle. It was treated as a regular AR type rifle. With a regular magazine release on it, it was considered an assault rifle.

[drewXD/G23]

According to DOJ they are classified as a Unregistered firearm, so it also falls under the "filing off a serial number"....... This is per DOJ..... Just saying

[oldsmoboat]

According to DOJ they are classified as a Unregistered firearm, so it also falls under the "filing off a serial number"....... This is per DOJ..... Just saying

Ban for FUD.

[mdib870]

if you build a firearm for your own personal use you are not required to put a serial number on it .....however if that person decides to sell it they are required by law to put a serial number name of manufacture and where the firearm was manufactured

[SacJDog]

If you attend a build party, they will probably have the paperwork that explains the legality of building your own firearm. I would get that and keep that with the rifle whenever you go to the range.

[DDMan]

Drew? Really? According to WHAT DOJ? I agree, if a cop runs into it, you will probably know more about it than him, and just be calm and explain it. Carry a copy of paperwork that explains it. Rifles DO NOT require registration. Just follow the AWB chart to make sure it's legal (featureless or BB)

[lawman18]

You do nothing because it is not considered a firearm by BATF FTB! As long as the fire control area has not been machined it is nothing but a paper weight!

According to John R. Spencer, Cheif of the Firearms Technology Branch of BATF:

"we have determined that an AR-15 type reciever which has no machining of any kind performed in the area of the trigger/ hammer (fire control) recess might not be considered a firearm. Such a reciever could have all other machening performed, including piviot pin and takedown pin hole(s) and clearence for the takedown-pin lug, but must be completely solid and unmachined in the fire control recess area."
With this in mind, he goes on to say "in order to be considerd 'completely solid and unmachined in the fire control recess area, the takedown pin lug clearence area must be no longer than .800 inch, measured from immediately foreward of the front of the buffer-retainer hole."

[lawman18]

With certain exceptions a firearm may be made by a nonlicensee provided it is not for sale and the maker is not prohibited from possessing firearms. However, a person is prohibited from making a semiautomatic assault weapon or assembling a nonsporting semiautomatic rifle or nonsporting shotgun from imported parts. An application to make a machinegun will not be approved unless documentation is submitted showing that the firearm is being made for a federal or state agency. [18 U. S. C. 922( o), (r), (v), and 923, 27 CFR 178.39, 178.40, 178.41 and 179.105]

[tahoetarga]

You do nothing because it is not considered a firearm by BATF FTB! As long as the fire control area has not been machined it is nothing but a paper weight!

According to John R. Spencer, Cheif of the Firearms Technology Branch of BATF:

"we have determined that an AR-15 type reciever which has no machining of any kind performed in the area of the trigger/ hammer (fire control) recess might not be considered a firearm. Such a reciever could have all other machening performed, including piviot pin and takedown pin hole(s) and clearence for the takedown-pin lug, but must be completely solid and unmachined in the fire control recess area."
With this in mind, he goes on to say "in order to be considerd 'completely solid and unmachined in the fire control recess area, the takedown pin lug clearence area must be no longer than .800 inch, measured from immediately foreward of the front of the buffer-retainer hole."

Read the OP's question....he's asking about a finished 80% lower.

I never came across one, but knowing what I know now, I'd just ensure it did not have FA capabilities...