Oath Keepers Movement

[Bucks n Ducks]

Any LEOs out there have any experience or opinions on the Oath Keepers organization?

[Bucks n Ducks]

Cricket......cricket..... so has no one even heard of the movement or is this such a sensitive issue LEOs don't want to make a public statement?

Perhaps this is too far reaching a question for a first post.

Either way- I'm lucky enough to live and work in a county where the Sheriff has already gone public with his support of the second amendment.

I'm not a member of the Oath Keepers group, but I will openly state I will absolutely not participate in any detail directed at confiscating firearms newly deemed illegal from lawful owners.

I'm not sure if this sentiment is all Oath Keepers is about

[jamesonamac]

I don't necessarily think of it as a movement... I do believe that anyone who has taken an oath to protect and defend the Constitution should think about what that means. The oath is forgotten and ignored far too often, not just by leo's, but by politicians, heads of various agency's, etc. The Oath Keepers are trying to remind people of the oath they swore to uphold, and I'll support them in that effort. Any other message or political philosophies that this type of organization sometimes attracts can deter from the good of the original, simple message.

[tanksoldier]

No experience with them from a LE perspective, but I did deal with them in the military.

There are several problems with Oath Keepers:

1. Not everything they have sworn "not" to do is unconstitutional or unlawful. Some of it is expressly permitted.
2. Since they are a group who has sworn to disobey lawful orders, they are conspiring to mutiny.
3. They are already members of one organization that has sworn to uphold the Constitution, making Oath Keepers redundant and the potential divided loyalty pointless.

They are similar to the "sovereign citizens" who take what should be good in principle and turn it on it's head.

I imagine there would be similar problems with it in law enforcement. You've already sworn to support and defend the Constitution, which is also the highest law in the land. Why would you need anything else?

[IrishJoe3]

I take my oath seriously, (both as a Soldier and police officer), however don't & won't affiliate with the oath keepers for the reasons Tanks listed.

[NuGunner]

Never heard of the term/reference.

[Armed24-7]

Never heard of it until now.

People interpret the constitution differently, much like they do religious passages. People often lean on their personal beliefs and opinions when interpreting it.

EDIT: After checking out the "Oathkeepers" website and reading what they are about, I don't think it is something I would ever be involved in. It is almost like the "Freeman" for LEO's and Military. I see the potenntial for some serious problems with it.

I support the 2nd amendment, but no thanks Oathkeepers. I am a gun owner. I own many firearms and I think any mentally stable, law abiding citizen should be able to own them too.

[JonVP_76]

I take my oath seriously, (both as a Soldier and police officer), however don't & won't affiliate with the oath keepers for the reasons Tanks listed.

this^^^

[Bucks n Ducks]

Thanks for the reply guys. I had pretty much had the same impression about the group as most stated. Seems like the right idea in general... but oh what a slippery slope it could be.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

Any LEOs out there have any experience or opinions on the Oath Keepers organization?

I find that using two extra keepers on my Sam Browne keeps my pants from falling down.