AB109...whats your take?

[RaiderMike619]

AB109 has been a complete failure......Parole agents are losing their jobs, and Parolees are running amuck on our California streets. I hope Jerry Brown and his cronies fix this before its too late. Crime is off the hook, and these so called sex offenders and non violent offenders are off the hook. Makes me sick. All LEO's are feeling the horrible impact!

[BigKevLA]

You know this as fact?
I would think that it varies county by county based on their supervision model.

[CaptMike]

AB 109 has definitely had many problems. I would offer that the incredibly large caseloads have limited the ability to properly supervise the PRCS. In my department, we had caseloads as high as 170 per supervision officer. lets be real, that number is impossibly high. We are now getting down to about 80 per Deputy. This is still high and does not allow for complete supervision. If we can get the ratio to 30 to 1, it would improve the supervision of these high profile inmates that are back on our streets.

I have seen the increase in crime in my neighborhood and that is due to the dumping of this large group of inmates back on to the streets in a one year period. The flash incarceration process has a limited effect on the PRCS. also, the current set up allows these PRCS to abscond with with limited consequences. Lots of problems in every area. As the process continues, I hope that changes can be made to improve the ratios, improve the flash incarceration model and improve the process for those that abscond and have found loopholes in the process. stay safe everyone

[scootergmc]

Parole agents losing their jobs hardly means AB109 is a failure. There are so many other reasons it could be considered a failure.

[CBR_rider]

In my county, the biggest problem is the lack of funding for the entire criminal justice system (or perhaps a better way to run the system would be better). AB109 doesn't matter when the jail doesn't hold the criminals anyway.

[RaiderMike619]

CBR, I beg to differ, if AB109 had not taken effect, criminals would still be in Prison, and not flooding the county jails. The jails in every county are screaming because they do not have the space, meanwhile they are early releasing thousands to make room for new ones. You might want to read up on it.

[Socaliente]

Riverside County has been hit hard by it. Banning is the counties biggest jail with 1500 inmates, it averages 75-125 Early Federal Releases per week. These are releases on top of the time served, bails, and court releases. And its no longer the lowest level inmates (drugs duis) that it was meant for. Parole and Probation violations are lucky to serve a week when it used to be months. The recidivism rate is about 80%. The only plus side (if you can call it that) is alternative sentancing program (ankle moniter) is growing like crazy, and it generates money for the county. But it just means the guys that should be behind bars are out in the public with a lil black box that may or may not keep them from wanting to break into your house.

All AB109 did was take the burden from the state and screw over the counties.

[micro911]

I thought most cities are reporting their crime rate is down..Maybe they don't need that many parole agents anymore.

Maybe not...

[pitbuljake]

Not to long ago I read a story in the Press Enterprise regarding a CHP Officer being involved in a shooting after a brief car chase out on the East end of Hemet. As the Officer engaged the parolee, the parolee reached into his own vehicle and tossed a grenade launcher onto someones front lawn. The parolee was taken into custody without further incident.

It's a sad time for law enforcement and the public at large. Thanks governor Moon Beam

[Watchur6]

Stats can be slanted one way or another. I remember hearing in training a couple years ago they were reporting that 187's were down but 245's were on the rise with 664/187.
Also, on the juvenile side of things there is a system in place where the offender has to have so many points to be booked in (misdemeanor/felony points). If they didn't qualify then it is usually a release to parent. At least in my county that's the way it works.

[scootergmc]

When parolees are kicked to AB109, LE can no longer "violate" their parole status when they commit new crimes.

Hell yes they can arrest them, and without the supervising agency's approval (unlike a standard 3056 PC hold). 3455(b)(1) PC (previously 3455(a)(4)) expressly allows for this. Anyone on Mandatory Supervision per 1170(h)(5)(B) can be arrested pursuant to 1203.2 PC (same as violation of probation).

[Eikbyrnir]

I don't know that its been a terrible idea for my county, but our jails are definitely beginning to get stacked with offenders that should probably still be sent up to state prisons, and seeing a lot of hooks that should be going to jail are just being 849'd instead.

On a side note I have just been violating these guy's probations and paroles whenever I get the chance. (Not out of spite or in a dirty way, but when they have a commit no crime clause and they're trespassing and im getting called on them, they're gone.)

I was previously a LEO in a big city in Texas, so I never experienced the jail setting until joining where I'm at today. But Our county jails are reaching capacity, and then what are they going to do? Put more violent felons on probation? Possibly...

[CBR_rider]

Flooding county jails or flooding prison, they were/are all being released far too early. Its a money and space problem shifted from the state to the counties.... It's not like our local parole agents weren't overwhelmed with their parolees. I agree that having re-offenders sentenced to county time obviously exacerbates the problem at the county level, but space and money is a problem at every level. If we could actually reign in the costs on inmate care/housing at the state level that would be a better solution.