OC sheriffs hiring 200

[Just-in]

Thank you for the heads up.

[lavey29]

You're welcome

[CaptMike]

All sheriff departments are growing due to AB 109. If you haven't heard of the "public safety realignment" (AB 109), it is the states way of reducing the state prison population.

All felons that are serving a non violent (on the current charge) sentence of 4 years or less will do their time in the county jails. This also includes 40 thousand state inmates that are released early from prison and have been dumped on the counties. The sheriff departments are detaining them and probation departments are supervising them. Parole no longer supervises the new parole classification of "Post Release Community Supervision" (PRCS). That is why all Sheriff departments and Probation Departments are in a major hiring mode. Its not federal money, it is state money given to the counties to deal with this huge mess.

[Armed24-7]

Glad to hear this but if they are hiring with money from a federal grant, those jobs will last as long as the grant money does unless OC raises some sort of tax to compensate for the loss.

This is a game that has been going on for decades now. LA City, for instance has a proposition which is a .5% sales tax increase on top of the state increase of .25% which went into effect 1/1/13. They are trying to sell this "in order to prevent cutting essential services" meaning police & fire.

Sorry, but you are slightly mistaken in regards to the purpose of the grant money. The grant money is for the hiring and training of new deputies. The positions are permanent. It cost a lot of money to hire and train a deputy sheriff trainee. Besides, they have been losing deputies due to retirements and promotions.

[Armed24-7]

Her stance on CCWs is a poor one. She is a former Division Chief from LASD and feels the same way as her former boss Baca.

This is a sad truth. Her mindset is similar to Baca in respects to management and gun control.

[retired]

Yes, she took all the free CCW's away that Corona had dished out to his dirtbag cronies and contributors.

She is quite different from Baca in terms of leadership. Night and day.

I am quite aware of what Corona did as far as ccws, but I believe (and correct me if I am wrong) he also issued ccws to "regular" people. Hutchins recalled most, if not all of them.

Also, you might want to take note of the posts by Watchur6 and gumby, who appear to have some direct insight into her leadership.

Do you work for OCSD, which would allow you the insight/experience to make the statement:

She is quite different from Baca in terms of leadership. Night and day.

Just wondering.

Also, unless you also worked for LASD, I don't understand how you would be able to compare her leadership to Baca's. Armed24-7, agrees with me and he is active LASD, while I am retired LASD. We have some insight as to how he manages. I was working there when he first ran for Sheriff.

I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just curious about your statement and how you came to have it. Thanks.

[DVSmith]

I am quite aware of what Corona did as far as ccws, but I believe (and correct me if I am wrong) he also issued ccws to "regular" people. Hutchins recalled most, if not all of them.

I can not comment first hand on the LASD issues, but I can comment first hand on the policy change in CCW between Carona and Hutchens.

In an effort to change public perception, Hutchens threw all CCW holders under the bus. She asked the state to modify their computer system so that she could "expire" CCW's early and then make everyone in their "review" process reapply. In addition to removing "crony" CCW holders, she also removed a large number of regular people that had applied under Carona's more liberal CCW policy. Those she did allow to renew had additional restrictions added to their license. Most typically, if you claimed your "good cause" was work related, you got a restriction that allowed you to carry only during the scope and course of your business activities.

[lavey29]

I am quite aware of what Corona did as far as ccws, but I believe (and correct me if I am wrong) he also issued ccws to "regular" people. Hutchins recalled most, if not all of them.

Also, you might want to take note of the posts by Watchur6 and gumby, who appear to have some direct insight into her leadership.

Do you work for OCSD, which would allow you the insight/experience to make the statement:

Just wondering.

Also, unless you also worked for LASD, I don't understand how you would be able to compare her leadership to Baca's. Armed24-7, agrees with me and he is active LASD, while I am retired LASD. We have some insight as to how he manages. I was working there when he first ran for Sheriff.

I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just curious about your statement and how you came to have it. Thanks.

I am in my 28th year with LASD and based on my past experiences and personal knowledge, I would much rather have her then Baca running a (the) Department. I have familiarization with both of their leadership attributes or lack there of.

[TurboChrisB]

Jaramillo is the other one you're thinking of. He ended up as a convicted felon.

As far as who she brought from LA, it was John Scott from LASD who is her Undersheriff, and Mike Hillman from LAPD who is no longer with OCSD.


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What do we know about John Scott? Anything?

[Armed24-7]

I am in my 28th year with LASD and based on my past experiences and personal knowledge, I would much rather have her then Baca running a (the) Department. I have familiarization with both of their leadership attributes or lack there of.

I have been on LASD for 25 years. I had only met her a few times, but never worked for her directly. She was a warm and friendly lady.

That said, she is added a huge amount of supervisor positions and has also been promoting a huge amount of new Sgt's and Lt's. According to a group of OCSD deputies I recently had a conversation with, she has adopted a micromanger style. Sound familiar?

[lavey29]

I have been on LASD for 25 years. I had only met her a few times, but never worked for her directly. She was a warm and friendly lady.

That said, she is added a huge amount of supervisor positions and has also been promoting a huge amount of new Sgt's and Lt's. According to a group of OCSD deputies I recently had a conversation with, she has adopted a micromanger style. Sound familiar?

Well, it is hard for me to comment on your post. I do not have close friends within OCSD and have only really had business related contacts there over the years with cases I worked when I was young detective. So, I do not know if the changes you indicate were necessary or not or good or bad. I can only comment on the former execs there who were all over the news and are now convicted felons or dead and I am pretty sure they were not the leadership one would want in their department. I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect Sheriff or Chief. You can really only hope for a good one versus a bad one in my opinion and not everything they do as far as policy or other exec related stuff is everyone going to agree with. You just have to focus on continuing to do your job to the best of your abilities because at the end of the day, you can look yourself in the mirror and know you did your best and made a difference despite somethings that maybe you did not like or agree with from the top.

[gumby]

Well, it is hard for me to comment on your post. I do not have close friends within OCSD and have only really had business related contacts there over the years with cases I worked when I was young detective. So, I do not know if the changes you indicate were necessary or not or good or bad. I can only comment on the former execs there who were all over the news and are now convicted felons or dead and I am pretty sure they were not the leadership one would want in their department. I don't think there is such a thing as a perfect Sheriff or Chief. You can really only hope for a good one versus a bad one in my opinion and not everything they do as far as policy or other exec related stuff is everyone going to agree with. You just have to focus on continuing to do your job to the best of your abilities because at the end of the day, you can look yourself in the mirror and know you did your best and made a difference despite somethings that maybe you did not like or agree with from the top.

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[Doheny]

What do we know about John Scott? Anything?

I don't know anything about him.

Also, re: the number being hired, retirements has a lot to do with it. With the Orange County Employees Retirement System, if you retire before the end of March you get an automatic COLA on April 1st. Retire March 31, get a raise April 1st...

[gumby]

I don't know anything about him.

Also, re: the number being hired, retirements has a lot to do with it. With the Orange County Employees Retirement System, if you retire before the end of March you get an automatic COLA on April 1st. Retire March 31, get a raise April 1st...

That's what I did, but you don't see it till May.