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  • Ribkick
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 702

    Question for Cal Hiway Patrol Officers

    In my 35 years of driving the highways in our state (I log many miles a year), I have Never seen a tour bus pulled over along the road. They pass me all the time doing 75+, ride my bumper when I'm cruising at 70 (I know, 65) and never, ever have seen them pulled over. Including in the congested freeways of the Bay Area.

    It seems logical to me as evidenced by the recent southern California accident, that when a bus does crash, many lives are lost and mangled. It has happened many times on the gambler specials between the Bay Area and Reno/Tahoe.

    Why are they given special status? It's not like they don't stick out like sore thumbs.

    And with all due respect, it would seem to be a priority to slow these rolling coffins down.

    Thank you and most respect.
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    Falconis
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1688

    I don't know where you get they get special status. They don't as far as I know. But you have to remember, the cop has to see them in order to stop them.

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    • #3
      Ribkick
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 702

      Originally posted by Falconis
      I don't know where you get they get special status. They don't as far as I know. But you have to remember, the cop has to see them in order to stop them.
      Special status meaning I never see them pulled over and they all, mostly, are flying down the highway.

      Are you CHP? No? And I know they have to see them, clock them, etc. to pull over, they sure spot a cell phone user and that's smaller than a bus. But in 35 years no stopped buses? What are the odds?

      Good example today: I pull on the freeway, westbound 580 in Livermore at 2:30 PM (my quitting time on a construction site), a CHP is on my on ramp sitting. I merge and a San Joaquin Commuter Bus is in the number one lane flying by at over 70. This is an 8 lane freeway, he couldn't be missed. But he was...
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      • #4
        KWalkerM
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 2032

        that falls under commercial enforcement for CHP. AFAIK most of that is done by officers who are better trained in that field compared to others. at least that is how it is run up here in Plumas. (all details gleaned from a ride along a couple months ago)

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        • #5
          rromeo
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 6981

          580 in Livermore is 65? So the bus is going 70, what was the rest of traffic like?
          Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

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          • #6
            FlyByWire
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 15

            1 (800) TELL CHP... help those guys out..
            Last edited by FlyByWire; 02-08-2013, 9:20 PM.
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            • #7
              bill_k_lopez
              Banned
              • May 2011
              • 2836

              They don't have special status. I've BEEN on one of those buses while being pulled over, and watched the driver get a ticket.

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              • #8
                4DMASTR
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 1077

                Seen them doing at least 80 on 101 near SFO. Worrysome to say the least...

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                • #9
                  Rickrock1
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 5158

                  As you know by now, ANOTHER Bus has killed 7 people and injured several others in CA near Big Bear and just recently 9 killed and additional 26 hurt near Pendleton, OR.

                  THIS NEEDS TO STOP NOWW....



                  As Founder and President of People Against Busses (PAB) I urge you to contact your very busy legislators and president to STOP THIS CARNAGE, NOW!!!!!!!


                  BUSSES MUST BE BANNED AND OR RESTRICTED AND NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE AT A TIME. IN ADDITION BUSSES MUST NOT BE ALLOWED AROUND OUR CHILDREN AND OR WITING 100 FEET OF OUR SCHOOLS.



                  I know, I know, you say the busses that you see driving the streets are 80-95% empty 80% of the time. How many people must be killed, before this government acts? Isn't just one life precious?? Should we not stand for that person, even though he/she probably voted for Mitt Romney???



                  I find it offensive and a travesty that this CONTINUES to KILL Children and Adults.



                  Donations to support PAB are not necessary. I will do this as my charitable good will.



                  Instead, you can send your donation to my favorite charity... Citizens Against Starvation & Hunger.

                  Just send a check made out to CASH and I will make sure it is handled correctly.











                  Make your New Year's Resolution to ensure that Those EVIL Busses are REMOVED from Society and NOT ANOTHER Person will EVER be injured again.



                  In all seriousness, it seems that our elected politicians and unelected bureaucrats are incapable of long-range, organized, sustainable, coherent, planning for anything.
                  Last edited by Rickrock1; 02-08-2013, 10:33 PM. Reason: m
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                  • #10
                    CBR_rider
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 2698

                    They aren't.
                    Originally posted by bwiese
                    [BTW, I have no problem seeing DEA Agents and drug cops hanging from ropes, but that's a separate political issue.]
                    Stay classy, CGF and Calguns.

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                    • #11
                      nine mil thrill
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1037

                      ...what is even more strange....is why not a single law enforcement officer can give an good explanation why a bus is not required to have seatbelts for it's passengers......??
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                      • #12
                        hitman13
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3793

                        Originally posted by nine mil thrill
                        ...what is even more strange....is why not a single law enforcement officer can give an good explanation why a bus is not required to have seatbelts for it's passengers......??
                        Because of the compartmentalization that is in place (READ: ENGINEERED) on a bus to prevent major injuries.

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                        • #13
                          Zedrek
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1812

                          Here is an article about the seatbelts on buses. It addresses school buses but same principle more or less:
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                          • #14
                            Ribkick
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 702

                            Originally posted by rromeo
                            580 in Livermore is 65? So the bus is going 70, what was the rest of traffic like?
                            Yes, 580 here is posted 65 and traffic was a mix of trucks, cars, RV's, trucks pulling boats, soccer moms, and buses. All at varying speeds. I don't know what this has to do with anything, but there ya go.

                            If traffic in the fast lane is doing 80 it's okay for the bus loaded with people to do the same? Is that where you're going?

                            Thanks for the responses
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                            • #15
                              rromeo
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 6981

                              I'm not saying it's okay, but do you think they should just single out buses? What about large vans?
                              My point was why should the bus get pulled over and not you or anybody else going the same speed?
                              Last edited by rromeo; 02-09-2013, 5:02 PM.
                              Never initiate force against another. That should be the underlying principle of your life. But should someone do violence to you, retaliate without hesitation, without reservation, without quarter, until you are sure that he will never wish to harm - or never be capable of harming - you or yours again.

                              - from THE SECOND BOOK OF KYFHO
                              (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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