MPs covered under LEOSA now?

[Jaxster3129]

IXIVI, where exactly are you getting your info?

I have found some items from the AFSFC stating that all SF/DOD personnel are basically on-hold with LEOSA until they finish drafting and implementing their way of making this happen. I'd guess within the next year which is ridiculous considering it's already been one, but there's not much to be done about it.

While my originally posted idea should technically qualify (imo), it is clearly shaky ground.

I do believe there is some need for a type of screening to determine who is eligible and who is not. In a perfect world, everyone who fits the bill should be... but our LE worlds are entirely different than civilian side. And it shouldn't be based entirely on TIS or grade either. I'm a 20 year old A1C who is still relatively new, yet I possess deeper career knowledge than the majority of SrA's, SSgt's, and TSgt's in my squadron. I have shown quality beyond my peers in many instances, yet it could be decided that I am not "capable" of carrying under LEOSA simply because of an assumed safety net? That would be ignorant policy making at its finest.

[rdsii64]

The amendment clearly spells out MPs are now covered, and the amendments authors make it more than clear that the idea was to cover DoD civilian Police and Military Police. Albeit, with proper ID.

http://www.leahy.senate.gov/press/leahy-hails-senate-action-on-law-enforcement-amendment

Figuring I'm an active duty MP, and now covered by the Federal Law, why wouldn't a County Sheriff coincide with the Federal Law and just issue me a civilian CCW?


I applied with Yolo County, attached the amendment, and received notice today that my application was denied base on "insufficient just cause". "Federal Law does not require Yolo County to issue you a CCW"

Well no sh*t Yolo County. I wasnt inferring you were "required" to issue me a license, only hoping that common sense would prevail, and if I'm a "Qualified Officer" by LEOSA standards, and de facto authorized to carry anyway, why not just collect your outrageous sum of $220 and give me a stamped piece of paper?

Ok. Done venting.

BTW, last sentence of denial letter says I cant re-apply for 1 whole year. Is that even legal??

I am a retired Marine and my MOS was 5811 (MP) I now work as an alarm monitor on a Marine Corps Instillation. We dug into this in much detail. Yes Leosa applies to you. The catch is your CCW won't be issued by the county sherif. In fact your Leosa CCW will valid in all 50 states.

[IXIVI]

I am a retired Marine and my MOS was 5811 (MP) I now work as an alarm monitor on a Marine Corps Instillation. We dug into this in much detail. Yes Leosa applies to you. The catch is your CCW won't be issued by the county sherif. In fact your Leosa CCW will valid in all 50 states.

Understood. What I was explaining last year, is that I tried to get a notoriously anti 2A Sheriff who arbitrarily denies CCW applications, to issue me a civilian permit in his county knowing that I would be carrying anyway (because of LEOSA).

Still unfortunate that shady sherriffs can get away with refusing applications or accept them only to rubber stamp them DENIED. Its a non issue for me now. And on top of that, LEOSA ID cards are coming this spring for those in the DoD that are "qualified".

[IXIVI]

The DoDI revision is out.

ID Cards will read "DoD Law Enforcement officer" (or US Army/USAF/DON)

and

"This card does not grant the bearer any authority to act on the agency's behalf or to exercise any law enforcement authority".

Individual Services can now issue their own official guidance and begin issuing.

[Funtimes]

The DoDI revision is out.

ID Cards will read "DoD Law Enforcement officer" (or US Army/USAF/DON)

and

"This card does not grant the bearer any authority to act on the agency's behalf or to exercise any law enforcement authority".

Individual Services can now issue their own official guidance and begin issuing.

Bureau of Prisons just had us change our ID cards to read "LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER" on the top of both cards to comply with LEOSA i think.

[IXIVI]

Another update from the SF center.

Air Force guidance is due to be published in the next few weeks. Carry creds will be issued by this Fall at the latest. Sooner if the contract can be awarded. Important to note that the "contract" will be NO COST TO THE SERVICE. This means that the member will be required to pay for the issuing of the credentials. No word yet on the cost. Likely a nominal fee.



And the quals/restrictions:



There are no restrictions based on age or rank for 926B (Serving Military): The preconditions for AF SF and LEOSA under 926B are as follows:

A member must

1) attain a 5 level (upgrade training)

2) Be currently authorized to carry a firearm

3) completion of all POST (Police Officer Standards & Training) IAW DOD 5525.15

4) Successful completion of a 1 year probationary period after attaining your upgrade training

6) a positive recommendation from your Commanding Officer


It was also noted during this update that the DoD will require all services to comply, but not set a timeline for them. The Air Force is under the impression that they are leading way here, and the other services will probably play "wait and see" with the AF program...