Registered Assault Weapon

[SONOMA820]

I was in a gun shop today and the guy told me that it was illegal to shoot a registered assault weapon on public land. He was adamant that this was correct and I have never heard this before. Of course I have heard much misinformation in gun shops in the past so this was no surprise but no less aggravating to hear come out of his mouth. Anyone else heard this before?

[Ron-Solo]

There are restrictions and/or limitations, but it is not totally prohibited.

I haven't kept up on it lately, so I don't feel qualified to expand on it any further.

[ke6guj]

30945. Unless a permit allowing additional uses is first obtained
under Section 31000, a person who has registered an assault weapon or
registered a .50 BMG rifle under this article may possess it only
under any of the following conditions:
(a) At that person's residence, place of business, or other
property owned by that person, or on property owned by another with
the owner's express permission.
(b) While on the premises of a target range of a public or private
club or organization organized for the purpose of practicing
shooting at targets.
(c) While on a target range that holds a regulatory or business
license for the purpose of practicing shooting at that target range.
(d) While on the premises of a shooting club that is licensed
pursuant to the Fish and Game Code.
(e) While attending any exhibition, display, or educational
project that is about firearms and that is sponsored by, conducted
under the auspices of, or approved by a law enforcement agency or a
nationally or state recognized entity that fosters proficiency in, or
promotes education about, firearms.
(f) While on publicly owned land, if the possession and use of a
firearm described in Section 30510, 30515, 30520, or 30530, is
specifically permitted by the managing agency of the land.
(g) While transporting the assault weapon or .50 BMG rifle between
any of the places mentioned in this section, or to any licensed gun
dealer, for servicing or repair pursuant to Section 31050, if the
assault weapon is transported as required by Sections 16850 and
25610.

so, if you have permission, you can use RAWs on public land.

http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/prog/recreation/hunting.html

Bureau of Land Management California policy is to allow the use of firearms on public lands, as provided for in state law, and to cooperate with state authorities in the enforcement of firearms regulations.

Persons have the permission of the Bureau of Land Management to possess and use firearms, including lawfully registered assault weapons, on BLM-administered public lands, except when prohibited by other applicable laws and regulations.

[SONOMA820]

Thank you for the information. I have shot on BLM property in the past but mainly out of state. I was always under the impression that it was okay on pretty much all BLM land and just took it for granted that I could. Again I appreciate the codes you guys cited.

[CSACANNONEER]

I believe that it is OK on public land if you get written permission from the agencies governing said land. Good luck getting that.

[BigMac]

If it is legal to shoot on said lands the AW is a non issue.
Lock you container and transport unloaded

[SONOMA820]

12276.1. PC

(C) (i) While on a target range that holds a regulatory or busines license for the purpose of practicing shooting at that target range.

(ii) while on the premises of a target range of a public or private club or organization organized for the purpose of practicing shooting at targets.

I had to look this up as I have read 12276/12277.1 PC before and have never seen this in it. I actually located it under 12285 PC along with this:

6) While on publicly owned land if the possession and use of a firearm described in Section 12276,12276.1, or 12278, is specifically permitted by the managing agency of the land.

[ke6guj]

I believe that it is OK on public land if you get written permission from the agencies governing said land. Good luck getting that.

the PC doesn't say that has to be be written permission, just that it be "specifically permitted". And the BLM has posted on their website that "Persons have the permission of the Bureau of Land Management to possess and use firearms, including lawfully registered assault weapons, on BLM-administered public lands, except when prohibited by other applicable laws and regulations.", so you are fine on BLM land. if you are on other public land, not admistered by BLM, then you need to have specific permission from that agency, which might come in written form.

[odysseus]

the PC doesn't say that has to be be written permission, just that it be "specifically permitted". And the BLM has posted on their website that "Persons have the permission of the Bureau of Land Management to possess and use firearms, including lawfully registered assault weapons, on BLM-administered public lands, except when prohibited by other applicable laws and regulations.", so you are fine on BLM land. if you are on other public land, not admistered by BLM, then you need to have specific permission from that agency, which might come in written form.

Thanks - I was looking to post this.

[Tac driver]

That all sounds good until I found this

Federal lands managed by the BLM in California are generally closed to the possession of assault weapons, as defined by state law: However, BLM Field Managers, after consultation with the State Office and the public, may designate specific areas, through issuance of specific authorization, where state defined assault weapons may be utilized. This would be under authority of the Recreation and Public Purposes Act. Such authorizations will require compliance with the appropriate regulations and state laws. The authorizations will contain safety conditions, including liability insurance. Authorization will specifically require that it will be the responsibility of the lessee to ensure adherence to state law regarding assault weapon use at these specially authorized areas." http://www.ca.blm.gov/caso/hunting.html

[Boswell]

Please clarify. What is the difference between a "registered assault weapon" and any run of the mill AR?

[ke6guj]

That all sounds good until I found this

Federal lands managed by the BLM in California are generally closed to the possession of assault weapons, as defined by state law: However, BLM Field Managers, after consultation with the State Office and the public, may designate specific areas, through issuance of specific authorization, where state defined assault weapons may be utilized. This would be under authority of the Recreation and Public Purposes Act. Such authorizations will require compliance with the appropriate regulations and state laws. The authorizations will contain safety conditions, including liability insurance. Authorization will specifically require that it will be the responsibility of the lessee to ensure adherence to state law regarding assault weapon use at these specially authorized areas." http://www.ca.blm.gov/caso/hunting.html

not sure where you see that in that URL you posted.

I look at that URL and I see this,

Persons have the permission of the Bureau of Land Management to possess and use firearms, including lawfully registered assault weapons, on BLM-administered public lands, except when prohibited by other applicable laws and regulations.

Please clarify. What is the difference between a "registered assault weapon" and any run of the mill AR?

a RAW was registered with the state of CA specifically as an AW and can have all the evil features including a detachable magazine.

[Tac driver]

That was the link I sent to a buddy of mine. He responded back with that text. Not sure where he found that I will ask him.