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  • its mcgavin son
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 2017

    Any LASD staff here?

    Quick question regarding my brother's application:

    He applied and tested for a "sheriff security assistant" entry position this past March. He was called up some months later for some kind of interview. He declined the interview and asked the Deputy to have his resume/cover letter/county application withdrawn from the process. Apparently, LASD/LA County dq'd him because he allegedly did not submit some paper with his signature regarding the application withdrawal.

    Where can I find legitimate information from any law/statute or civil service code that states a signature must be submitted in addition to a verbal statement for a regular citizen job (non-peace officer)?


    He doesn't care about the department, nor LA County, but he is worried about his personal record being tainted with a "disqualification" stamp. I appreciate any input in advance. I'm trying to help him out
  • #2
    socalblue
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 811

    Originally posted by its mcgavin son
    Quick question regarding my brother's application:

    He applied and tested for a "sheriff security assistant" entry position this past March. He was called up some months later for some kind of interview. He declined the interview and asked the Deputy to have his resume/cover letter/county application withdrawn from the process. Apparently, LASD/LA County dq'd him because he allegedly did not submit some paper with his signature regarding the application withdrawal.

    Where can I find legitimate information from any law/statute or civil service code that states a signature must be submitted in addition to a verbal statement for a regular citizen job (non-peace officer)?


    He doesn't care about the department, nor LA County, but he is worried about his personal record being tainted with a "disqualification" stamp. I appreciate any input in advance. I'm trying to help him out
    You won't find one. This individual failed to properly follow the process or otherwise meet the requirements to properly withdraw the application & was DQ'd.

    The law in the case of a candidate is simple: discrimination due to race, sex, religion or ethnic origin not otherwise permitted may be challenged.

    Take this as a learning experience. Ask if there is anything else needed beyond the phone call.

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    • #3
      its mcgavin son
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 2017

      Originally posted by socalblue
      You won't find one. This individual failed to properly follow the process or otherwise meet the requirements to properly withdraw the application & was DQ'd.

      The law in the case of a candidate is simple: discrimination due to race, sex, religion or ethnic origin not otherwise permitted may be challenged.

      Take this as a learning experience. Ask if there is anything else needed beyond the phone call.
      How is it possible to "properly follow the process" or "meet the requirements to properly withdraw" when there isn't "one"?

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      • #4
        socalblue
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 811

        Originally posted by its mcgavin son
        How is it possible to "properly follow the process" or "meet the requirements to properly withdraw" when there isn't "one"?
        And you know that how? If one was to read all the information received as part of the application packet I strongly suspect the information will be present. From your tone I would guess there may well be other issues wrapped around the DQ.

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        • #5
          Falconis
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 1688

          McGavin, it's been a long time, but I distinctly remember every packet I ever received had instructions on what I needed to do to for everything. If the packet didn't have it, someone told me exactly what I needed done.

          I will admit, i know nothing of LASD though

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          • #6
            Ron-Solo
            In Memoriam
            • Jan 2009
            • 8581

            If the applicant desires to withdraw from the testing process, they must do so in writing. Otherwise, they will remain in the process until they miss a critical portion of the testing process, for which they will be DQ'd for cause.

            Without cause, or a voluntary withdrawal the applicant will remain in the testing process.

            Sounds like a maturity issue to me.
            Last edited by Ron-Solo; 12-05-2012, 11:17 AM.
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            • #7
              BoJackUSMC
              Calguns Addict
              • Aug 2010
              • 7091

              Originally posted by Ron-Solo
              If the applicant desires to withdraw from the testing process, they must do so in writing. Otherwise, they will remain in the process until they miss a critical portion of the testing process, for which they will be DQ'd for cause.

              Without cause, or a voluntary withdrawal the applicant will remain in the testing process.

              Sounds like a maturity issue to me.
              ^This

              He must do it in writing(either email or letter to his/her BI). Tell him to make sure read all the documents next time.

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              • #8
                Datdarkness
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2009
                • 965

                dont want to steal the thread but kinda got me concerned..
                In spring i applied for CA, and was given a test date,
                i had to reschedual it because of school,
                then of course school screwed me again so i had to reschedual AGAIN,
                both times the lady on the phone said that i would be reschedualed, but i never reciever anything for the next test. ( so i never took the test )

                I got my financial aid letter for school, and decided to continue with school...
                will this haunt me later???
                Originally posted by cdtx2001
                Hope this helps and remember.... If you meet a nice girl be good. If you can't be good, be safe. If you can't be safe, don't name it after me.

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                • #9
                  its mcgavin son
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 2017

                  Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                  If the applicant desires to withdraw from the testing process, they must do so in writing. Otherwise, they will remain in the process until they miss a critical portion of the testing process, for which they will be DQ'd for cause.

                  Without cause, or a voluntary withdrawal the applicant will remain in the testing process.

                  Sounds like a maturity issue to me.
                  No, a maturity issue is getting "3000 boyz" tattooed on your person.


                  Originally posted by BoJackUSMC
                  ^This

                  He must do it in writing(either email or letter to his/her BI). Tell him to make sure read all the documents next time.
                  To my knowledge, he was never assigned a background investigator. He passed the written test and that was it.

                  Originally posted by Datdarkness
                  dont want to steal the thread but kinda got me concerned..
                  In spring i applied for CA, and was given a test date,
                  i had to reschedual it because of school,
                  then of course school screwed me again so i had to reschedual AGAIN,
                  both times the lady on the phone said that i would be reschedualed, but i never reciever anything for the next test. ( so i never took the test )

                  I got my financial aid letter for school, and decided to continue with school...
                  will this haunt me later???
                  Honestly, that's a good question. You should call:

                  Gloria Gonzalez
                  Los Angeles County Human Resources Analyst
                  (213) 639-6337

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                  • #10
                    Bobby Ricigliano
                    Mit Gott und Mauser
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 17439

                    Originally posted by its mcgavin son
                    No, a maturity issue is getting "3000 boyz" tattooed on your person.

                    1. Ask a question about LASD procedure.

                    2. Receive an honest and truthful answer from an LASD veteran.

                    3. Decide you don't like the answer, and make disparaging comments about the department. Classy.

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                    • #11
                      shooperman
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1854

                      "I'd cure the whole world with one primal scream, but no one would listen" - Davey Havok

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                      • #12
                        Ron-Solo
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 8581

                        Originally posted by its mcgavin son
                        No, a maturity issue is getting "3000 boyz" tattooed on your person.
                        I wouldn't even try to argue that point, because I agree 100%.

                        I worked "3000" many moons ago. It was a busy placed full of hardened criminals, but there was nothing elite about it. I was the "Third Man" in Module 3600/3800 where we had 720 "High Mod" inmates incarcerated for murder, robbery, rape, ADW, kidnapping, narco sales, etc. We had three deputies to house those inmates. The "Third Man" was the training officer and handled all inmate movement. In those days, all those inmates went to the mess hall for chow. Now they are fed in their cells. I worked MCJ from 1978-1981.
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                        1978-2011

                        NRA Life Member
                        CRPA Life Member
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                        NRA Shotgun Instructor
                        NRA Range Safety Officer
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                        • #13
                          TrailerparkTrash
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 4249

                          The "3000 boyz" comment was lame. Obviously, a "hater."
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                          • #14
                            Datdarkness
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 965

                            well update on my situation... i called, and the lady said i was fine..
                            she said i could not be DQ'd because i had not been assigned a BI yet, and i never took the test, so i could not have failed it.
                            Originally posted by cdtx2001
                            Hope this helps and remember.... If you meet a nice girl be good. If you can't be good, be safe. If you can't be safe, don't name it after me.

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