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  • judoguy
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 243

    on duty back up gun // LCP vs BDYGUARD vs PM9

    Ruger Lcp vs S&W Bodyguard vs Kahr Pm9


    Some things I noticed from what others have told me, as well as reviews + videos.

    Ruger Lcp----
    Pro - Light / Price / Simple / Less things to snag on / Nice Trigger
    Con - My personal preference but no auto slide lock, Sights can be a bit difficult to use "but then again this is a 7yrd gun"

    S&W Bodyguard----

    Pro - Light / Price / Nice Sights / Dont care for laser but it comes with one
    Con - Slightly bigger or at least in my pants / I really dont like the trigger

    Kahr Pm9----
    Pro - Caliber size up / Nice Sights / Less things to snag on/ Nice Trigger
    Con - Price / Weight / Size a little bit bigger than others


    these are things that most of you know but anyone out there got any more input before I go purchase my pistol in 2 days? Price really isnt an issue, but basically the best option overall.

    I really like the bodyguard for the slide lock and sights and I was about to go buy the bodyguard today but the trigger really does bother me a bit, felt like a revolver but I know some people like that.

    any tips would help!!
  • #2
    chsk9
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 1357

    I would look at door #4 (S&W J frame) pm sent.

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    • #3
      yzErnie
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Mar 2007
      • 6309

      Kahr PM9. Able to handle full power 9mm ammo, small, good DAO trigger, night sights are fantastic, never a snag pulling it out of where ever I have it stashed and unbelievably accurate to 25yds and beyond. I hit a clay bird at 106yds in 3 shots.
      The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

      Originally posted by RazoE
      I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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      • #4
        chsk9
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 1357

        Originally posted by yzernie
        Kahr PM9. Able to handle full power 9mm ammo, small, good DAO trigger, night sights are fantastic, never a snag pulling it out of where ever I have it stashed and unbelievably accurate to 25yds and beyond. I hit a clay bird at 106yds in 3 shots.
        That will come in handy if he's attacked by a clay bird 100 yards away! kidding!

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        • #5
          hitman13
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 3793

          Why no LC9?

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          • #6
            yzErnie
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2007
            • 6309

            Originally posted by chsk9
            That will come in handy if he's attacked by a clay bird 100 yards away! kidding!
            Those clay birds are freakin dangerous!!!
            The satisfaction of a job well done is to be the one who has done it

            Originally posted by RazoE
            I don't feel a thing when some cop gets ghosted.

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            • #7
              P5Ret
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2010
              • 6390

              Originally posted by judoguy
              Ruger Lcp vs S&W Bodyguard vs Kahr Pm9


              Some things I noticed from what others have told me, as well as reviews + videos.

              Ruger Lcp----
              Pro - Light / Price / Simple / Less things to snag on / Nice Trigger
              Con - My personal preference but no auto slide lock, Sights can be a bit difficult to use "but then again this is a 7yrd gun"

              S&W Bodyguard----

              Pro - Light / Price / Nice Sights / Dont care for laser but it comes with one
              Con - Slightly bigger or at least in my pants / I really dont like the trigger

              Kahr Pm9----
              Pro - Caliber size up / Nice Sights / Less things to snag on/ Nice Trigger
              Con - Price / Weight / Size a little bit bigger than others


              these are things that most of you know but anyone out there got any more input before I go purchase my pistol in 2 days? Price really isnt an issue, but basically the best option overall.

              I really like the bodyguard for the slide lock and sights and I was about to go buy the bodyguard today but the trigger really does bother me a bit, felt like a revolver but I know some people like that.

              any tips would help!!
              Get your hands on each of what you are thinking of getting. I shot a buddy's LCP and hated it. Some people love them, it didn't work for me. I'm not going to pick the gun I may have to use as a last ditch effort to save my own butt based upon someone else's review.

              I'd also add in a Smith J frame, as well as the LC9, and Smith's MP Shield.

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              • #8
                judoguy
                Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 243

                J frame / lc9 / shield are all great guns but I was thinking of size factor for pocket. I'm about 5"7. I pocketed the j frame / lc9 and it was just too large in my wool pants. I looked at the shield and the size was very similar

                So decided to get a micro pistol. Pm9 I believe is about the same size as the bodyguard but slightly thicker

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                • #9
                  Sacmedic
                  Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 200

                  I can only speak for the LCP as a backup gun. Awful trigger. Not the easiest for a follow up shot, even though it is only .380. Highly concealable. Nothing to snag on.

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                  • #10
                    chsk9
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1357

                    Originally posted by judoguy
                    J frame / lc9 / shield are all great guns but I was thinking of size factor for pocket. I'm about 5"7. I pocketed the j frame / lc9 and it was just too large in my wool pants. I looked at the shield and the size was very similar

                    So decided to get a micro pistol. Pm9 I believe is about the same size as the bodyguard but slightly thicker
                    If it must be a micro pistol look at the LC9. Trigger takes a bit of getting used to, but its reliable with good sights. I'd look at other modes of carry like a vest holster for a J frame.

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                    • #11
                      Notorious
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4701

                      Had the LCP, tough trigger, stout recoil with our Ranger ammo. Never felt adequate with a tiny gun like that. Switched to the Taurus PT709 Slim with Ranger +P+ 9mm and felt a lot better. But went back to the tried and true Airweight 642 after all said and done just because it is hard to beat a J-frame for BUG.

                      If you are set on an auto, check out the Taurus. It also comes in a forty cal variant. Great safety trigger like a Glock, double strike capability, light, not much bigger than a LCP, useful 3 dot sights, 7+1 capacity, 9mm, and way cheaper than a Kahr and easier to shoot than their double action trigger.
                      I like guns

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                      • #12
                        LCU1670
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 2865

                        pm9

                        I have the pm40, a bit snappy, I like it but follow on shots are slow. The pm9 would probably be the best choice
                        sigpic Waterborne!

                        Former: Knight of Front Sight &
                        Gold Star Member

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                        • #13
                          mixicus
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 624

                          Get your hands on them and shoot them. Talk with some partners and see about borrowing theirs for a few rounds or call around to the local indoor ranges to see if they have 1 or more for rent. All 3 are as reliable as the next in that class of pistol. The best gun is going to be the one that feels right to you.

                          You may also want to check out the old standby, 5-shot J-frame S&W revolver and maybe the Glock 26 or 27 (especially if your primary is a Glock)

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                          • #14
                            CalCop
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 573

                            No on the Ruger LCs. They have a very long trigger pull, and halfway through the reset, it has a positive click that feels exactly like the actual reset. You think you are reset and you pull the trigger...no bang...you weren't actually reset. This is why I chose not to buy the Ruger. I tried many guns and liked the Kahr PM9 and Beretta Nano the best. Nano is $200 cheaper than the Kahr.
                            "Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen."
                            -- Sir Robert Peel

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                            • #15
                              FresnoCNC
                              Vendor/Retailer
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 375

                              Look at the shield if you can find one. The sights are so shuttle on the lcp, like barely there. The kahr requires more frequent maintenance but is still a good shooter

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