"Legal" gun collection confiscation

[fmxmyway]

A little background on this question. My grandpa passed away from natural causes a little more than 6 months ago. He lived 70 miles east of San Diego by the border, so it was a dangerous area, drug runners, etc. He was by himself when he passed away and I guess it is standard protocol for the sheriffs department to confiscate all guns on site. He had close to 40 guns confiscated, some of which had 30 round magazines and were in the non-california modified versions (he bought all these mags and guns 14 plus years ago when they were legal in the state of California). The Sheriff told me that eventually, an investigator will call me to release the guns, if I want them. The sheriff knew that I was currently in the hiring process for a couple of 3 letter LE agencies and suggested that because of this, it might just be better to let them keep the guns.

So my question is will they ever reach out to my family to return the guns? I was to understand if they do not do it before a certain time then they end up destroying or keeping the firearms. Thank you in advance for your time and knowledge.

[fullrearview]

Keep bugging them about it. It shouldn't matter to your potential department. If your gun "collection" is an issue to them, would you really want to work for them?

Who was listed as next of kin?

[CSACANNONEER]

Sounds like someone in the dept either wants something in the collection or just believes that guns are evil. Either way, keep bugging them and get EVERYTHING shipped to am OOS FFL to transfer to the new OOS owner who you either sell or give them to.

[Librarian]

In the meantime, try to get an inventory from them of what they're holding. PC 33800 says

(a) When a firearm is taken into custody by a law
enforcement officer, the officer shall issue the person who possessed
the firearm a receipt describing the firearm, and listing any serial
number or other identification on the firearm.
(b) The receipt shall indicate where the firearm may be recovered,
any applicable time limit for recovery, and the date after which the
owner or possessor may recover the firearm pursuant to Chapter 2
(commencing with Section 33850).
(c) Nothing in this section is intended to displace any existing
law regarding the seizure or return of firearms.

They will require a LEGR - Law Enforcement Gun Release, http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pd...orms/legr.pdf? - so you might as well get that set up. (The DOJ web page is not updated with the current PC numbering - 12021.3 is now 33850)

[IrishJoe3]

Keep bugging them about it. It shouldn't matter to your potential department. If your gun "collection" is an issue to them, would you really want to work for them?

This!!!

[veeklog]

It doesn't even matter to the three letter agency, so I would get the guns back legally

[Falconis]

Yup, get them all back and if possible, have them ship all the non compliant stuff to a friend or relative out of state. Let me us know what happens.

[Ron-Solo]

Keep bugging them about it. It shouldn't matter to your potential department. If your gun "collection" is an issue to them, would you really want to work for them?

Who was listed as next of kin?

Right

Sounds like someone in the dept either wants something in the collection or just believes that guns are evil. Either way, keep bugging them and get EVERYTHING shipped to am OOS FFL to transfer to the new OOS owner who you either sell or give them to.

Wrong. I don't know where people get this insulting idea that LE can, or does, obtain property in this manner. There is no law that allows this.

[RickD427]

Right



Wrong. I don't know where people get this insulting idea that LE can, or does, obtain property in this manner. There is no law that allows this.

Ron,

I wish that you were right on this one. But isn't this exactly the sort of thing that Sheriff Floyd Tidwell of San Bernadino County got convicted of not too long ago? Here's a link:

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/dec/01/local/me-tidwell1

[fullrearview]

Ron,

I wish that you were right on this one. But isn't this exactly the sort of thing that Sheriff Floyd Tidwell of San Bernadino County got convicted of not too long ago? Here's a link:

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/dec...al/me-tidwell1

Key word.

Not directed at you, but in general:

No gun is worth my career. As much as I like guns, they are still just a tool. I can buy/sell/trade, tools. I could own the most valuable firearm in history and it WOULD get used. I don't own a lot of guns because I don't need a lot of tools... But ALL my tools get used.

[SoCal326]

Wow, the guy stole over 500 guns and only got a fine and probation. What would happen to a regular guy if he stole just one?

[Eldraque]

40 guns, with legal 30 rd mags. hell yes u need to take ownership of them

[Librarian]

He had close to 40 guns confiscated, some of which had 30 round magazines and were in the non-california modified versions (he bought all these mags and guns 14 plus years ago when they were legal in the state of California).

40 guns, with legal 30 rd mags. hell yes u need to take ownership of them

If some of those turn out to be unregistered 'assault weapons', they are likely gone for good.

If some were registered, if they were 'by name' they could be shipped out of state, but may not remain in CA.

If they were 'by feature' but registered, might be converted to OLL with magazine lock configuration, or featureless configuration, and then UN registered, and kept here.

30 round mags probably also gone for good - illegal to give them, PC 32310 - a bequest is a giving.

[CSACANNONEER]

Wrong. I don't know where people get this insulting idea that LE can, or does, obtain property in this manner. There is no law that allows this.

Ron,
I've personally known a lawyer for one CA LEA who had a court order to release a firearm, which he had just purchased from a client, to him. A major CA LEA had possession of it and, even with the court order, the person in charge of evidence at that location, first lied and said it had been moved from that facility and destroyed. Then, a couple hours later, admitted it was there and still refused to release it. It took a call from the judge who issued the order to get it released. Then, it took a second call from the judge to get the holster, magazines and ammo released. I never did learn why the employees at this particular station wanted to keep a two week old Kimber. Did someone there think they could end up with it? Did the person in the evidence room not like firearms enough to risk a contempt charge? I don't know the answers. But, I have no reason not to believe the attorney who had to go though this about 7 years ago.

[Ron-Solo]

Ron,

I wish that you were right on this one. But isn't this exactly the sort of thing that Sheriff Floyd Tidwell of San Bernadino County got convicted of not too long ago? Here's a link:

http://articles.latimes.com/2004/dec...al/me-tidwell1

Incidents such as Tidwell are an anomaly. Too many members jump in here and immediately insinuate or accuse LE of taking guns every time this is mentioned, without any justification. It gets old real fast.