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  • taperxz
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2010
    • 19395

    How to handle an odd situation.

    OK, how do i put this...

    My daughter when traveling around town sometimes gets pulled over by the same young officer. She may ask what the problem is. He seems to come up with stuff like, "i think your blinker is out" or your brake light is out on one side or the other". One time it was "it looked as though your windshield had a crack in it"

    Lots of conversation but no ticket and not once was there a VC violation. It appears that his "very nice attitude and friendly demeanor" points to other reasons for the stop. Short of talking to a superior and upsetting this person, what could/should she say to this officer. I think you guys get my drift.

    Bottom line, he must like her and seems to enjoy pulling her over. (can't blame him for the possible attraction and she is flattered somewhat but also annoyed)

    We are talking about my 21 year old daughter here so, i am not trying to troll you guys. Your thoughts... thanks
  • #2
    Big O
    Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 379

    I think an audio recorder to start documenting these stops wouldn't hurt, but the professionals here might have better ideas.

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    • #3
      TrailerparkTrash
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4249

      Have her wear one of her mother's big rings on her own ring finger. Next time she gets pulled over, have her flash the ring, or say something like, "Man, my husband should have fixed that light...blinker, (fill in).
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      • #4
        rickster1269
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 1257

        Originally posted by TrailerparkTrash
        Have her wear one of her mother's big rings on her own ring finger. Next time she gets pulled over, have her flash the ring, or say something like, "Man, my husband should have fixed that light...blinker, (fill in).
        Exactly...however, he probably already noticed her ring finger..

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        • #5
          P5Ret
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2010
          • 6375

          Have her take the offensive, and ask him if he thinks risking his job is a good reason to try to talk to her for a few minutes, when he sees her driving. Not many supervisor's will have a sense of humor about one of their officers doing these kinds of things. Or she could just turn it around on him and ask him if he is going to ask her out because the getting pulled over when he see's her driving is getting old.

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          • #6
            Ron-Solo
            In Memoriam
            • Jan 2009
            • 8581

            A polite call to the watch sergeant should resolve this issue.
            There is also the possibility that there are legit vehicle code violations, and he is just giving her a break. A polite conversation with the supervisor on an informal basis should work miracles.
            Last edited by retired; 10-14-2012, 11:51 PM.
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            • #7
              emvampyre
              Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 158

              Originally posted by Ron-Solo
              A polite call to the watch sergeant should resolve this issue.
              Yup...
              "Carpe noctem"

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              • #8
                Notorious
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 4695

                Assuming he is doing it on the sly, there won't even be any documentation of the stop because he probably won't be so stupid as to call it out everytime and have records of him stopping the same plate over and over on both dispatch logs and DMV records checks.

                She should document some of the stops and time/place to the best of her ability and then either call the patrol team sergeant/lieutenant or wait until the next time and document that and then call. Either way, make the call to ask what is the problem.

                However, before making the call, make sure she does check her car to see if she does have any equipment violations and fix them. The officer might just be right and wanting to make sure she fixes all her stuff and then throw in a few flirtatious exchanges while he is at it.

                Cops get in trouble for this kind of stuff though and a few have been fired for it when they take it to the next step and actually pursue something, so it's no laughing matter.
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                • #9
                  NorCalXJ
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3992

                  Originally posted by Notorious
                  Assuming he is doing it on the sly, there won't even be any documentation of the stop because he probably won't be so stupid as to call it out everytime and have records of him stopping the same plate over and over on both dispatch logs and DMV records checks.

                  She should document some of the stops and time/place to the best of her ability and then either call the patrol team sergeant/lieutenant or wait until the next time and document that and then call. Either way, make the call to ask what is the problem.

                  However, before making the call, make sure she does check her car to see if she does have any equipment violations and fix them. The officer might just be right and wanting to make sure she fixes all her stuff and then throw in a few flirtatious exchanges while he is at it.

                  Cops get in trouble for this kind of stuff though and a few have been fired for it when they take it to the next step and actually pursue something, so it's no laughing matter.
                  What he said. And make to report it, and don't be anonymous. If there is no victim, then there is no crime.
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                  • #10
                    TrailerparkTrash
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 4249

                    Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                    ...There is also the possibility that there are legit vehicle code violations, and he is just giving her a break. A polite conversation with the supervisor on an informal basis should work miracles.
                    Exactly!

                    All this krap about secret or clandestine "video taping" etc....???? Come on, start "low" on the complaint barometer and work your way to the top if the matter is not solved properly.

                    My fellow Posters, no offense to the OP, but there's two sides to EVERY story out there. Without ANY of us knowing all of the facts in this case, I think a simple call to the department with an iquirey should suffice for now. At least it will make the officer give a specific reason for his t-stops (if it's not already documented in his log). It will also put him on notice that he's being looked at with the OP's daughter.

                    I guarantee this outcome: Any further t/stops to her will NOT result in just a warning. She'll be cited for the violation. Like it or not, you can pretty much bet the farm with that outcome in the future. Any officer can always give a "receipt" (aka: cite) for a t/stop (assuming it's a legal stop for a VC violation). Playing devil's advocate here, a person can be stopped legally every single day for a violation, if the violation continues or a "new" one is observed.
                    Last edited by TrailerparkTrash; 10-14-2012, 11:58 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Triad
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1684

                      6 years later and I still hear my training officer's voice "No beat wives!"

                      Realistically, Ron-Solo gave the best advice. A phone call will make it stop.

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                      • #12
                        Notorious
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 4695

                        Originally posted by TrailerparkTrash
                        I guarantee this outcome: Any further t/stops to her will NOT result in just a warning. She'll be cited for the violation. Like it or not, you can pretty much bet the farm with that outcome in the future.
                        Yep. That was my recommendation to have the daughter go over the car to make sure she is clean before she gets all up on this.
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                        • #13
                          taperxz
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 19395

                          Appreciate the replies. To give a state of mind, She is not attracted to the LEO. She does not want to stir the pot in our little village that is NOT in Lake county, I think she just wants to tell him to stop without getting him in trouble but is SERIOUSLY concerned with the come back of " miss! i am an officer of the .... and i am here for your.... doing my job.... You know what i mean. I guess she wants to de escalate in a nice way.

                          She also has a boy friend who is not aware of this (her business not his, per me!) We certainly don't need a hot head around the situation. I think as mentioned early, she wants "an appropriate thing to say" We live here and we don't want a young, vindictive LEO watching out for the whole family if you know what i mean. (not saying that would be the case) but this is a smaller city.

                          My experience, I know a local LEO from years ago, a friend, who engaged in this and worse. Was actually fired, moved on to another department and was fired again for even worse conduct. (in his squad car!! ) No, seriously!! Yes he has changed his lifestyle as that was 25 years ago!!

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                          • #14
                            beb
                            Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 446

                            Put a GoPro in the car to document the stops just in case you need it in the future...

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                            • #15
                              P5Ret
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 6375

                              Smart *** answers aside, she simply needs to tell him to stop. You need to check her car carefully once a week or so. Check all the lights even the license plate light ect. No cell phone use in the car period. If he tags her for some BS equipment violation she should ask to see what is wrong before signing the tag, if he does not allow her to see it, she needs to have a supervisor on scene. Maybe you should take her car to the local pd and ask if they can do a quick vehicle inspection for you. kind of discretely mention that your daughter keeps getting pulled over and you can't find any equipment violations that the officer keeps telling her is the problem, and would like someone more versed in the vehicle code to check it out. The way rumors fly around pd's I have been in, withing 24 hours everyone will know something is up, and I'll bet it ends quick without you ever saying a name.

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