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  • Foriegn power
    Banned
    • Dec 2009
    • 1035

    ,,,,,

    Hhh
    Last edited by Foriegn power; 01-04-2014, 2:55 PM.
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    veeklog
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 1040

    Forest Service, BLM, and NPS jobs are extremely difficult to get. There are no pre-service academies for this. All go through FLETC for either uniformed or 1811 criminal investigator training. Forest Service 1811 jobs are some for the most sought after in Federal Service. They usually take only people working for the Forest Service or lateral hires from another investigative agency. I have only seen BLM jobs advertised rarely, and when they do advertise on USAJOBS, the only one I ever saw are for Tribal Police Officer and Onvestigator, and you have to be part American Indian to apply. In 14 years I have not seen advertisement for NPS, not even for Park Police, which comes under the NPS. They only have three AOR's, and that is New York, San Francisco (The Presidio), and Washington DC which is one the largest LE Offices in DC.

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    • #3
      cruising7388
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 2542

      Opt for an agency that gives you at least some control over where you pursue your career. Raising kids successfully is difficult enough without having to deal with family relocation every couple of years.
      Last edited by Kestryll; 12-28-2013, 2:31 PM.

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      • #4
        HisOwnHero
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 63

        In terms of federal park/forest service LE positions, like others have said, they are very hard to get especially the 1811 spots. The BLM academy was run out of the same FLETC I went to and I became friends with several of them. Most, if not all of the BLM recruits at that time were Native American and many were prior Tribal Police Officers and or state/local park rangers before being hired by BLM.

        I wouldn't bother with a self sponsored academy if you are looking into federal LE. You will have to go through FLETC regardless of whether you are an entry level applicant right off the street or if you are a seasoned LE veteran.

        Another good option if you just like working outdoors is the Border Patrol. The work is almost all outdoors and there is a good deal of interaction with BLM, state/local park rangers and other LE organizations. It would be a good spot to get your career started and to start networking. Plus it will give you federal time towards your retirement and other federal benefits that would transfer over should you ever choose to move on to BLM.

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        • #5
          biglou
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 1315

          All those jobs are posted on www.usajobs.gov, if they have any openings.

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          • #6
            Bobshouse
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 516

            Just go to prison. I did. After 27 years I'm back on the streets with all the new "skills" and "abilities" I learned while I was there.

            When you mention "prison" everyone thinks Correctional Officer. Actually its a little city in itself. Business Office, Warehouses, Transportation, Facilities, Recreation, Farming just to name a few.

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            • #7
              Foriegn power
              Banned
              • Dec 2009
              • 1035

              bobshouse, you work in the correctional facilities yourself?

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              • #8
                Unit74
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2359

                Join the military.... cuz if your not a vet, good luck.

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                • #9
                  Tacit Blue
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 4134

                  Usajobs is giant black hole.... I had a " point of contact" for a job with the air force. The computer kicked back my application and i lost the job, even when the recruiter told me i was qualified.


                  You have a better chance being hit by lighting..
                  "All that is complex is not useful. All that is useful is simple."
                  Mikhail Kalashnikov *...

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                  • #10
                    Foriegn power
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1035

                    Hhhhhh
                    Last edited by Foriegn power; 01-01-2014, 11:39 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Cuey
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 9

                      FED LEO, PM me.

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                      • #12
                        Bobshouse
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 516

                        Originally posted by drider
                        bobshouse, you work in the correctional facilities yourself?
                        Yes, but Im doing much better now that Im retired. Worked at the US Penitentiary in Lompoc.

                        When I went to look for jobs in the Federal Building in Seattle there were 1000's of announcements on the board. A guy walked by and asked me if I worked for the federal government...I said no, and he politely pointed me to the other bulletin board across the hall...it had two or three announcements posted, one was for a correctional officer in Lompoc.

                        Its hard to get into the Federal Government, but once your in, your career paths are unlimited if you willing to relocate. I had the full intention of obtaining a job with the Federal Bureau of Prisons to get my foot in the door, and transfer to another agency afterwards. Most jobs are announced "internally" (as in the 1000 announcements in the Federal Building), or to current government employees, before they are announced "externally" to civilians.

                        I didn't do the entire 27 years as a hack, moved around into various career paths within the BOP and retired as a GS12.
                        Last edited by Bobshouse; 10-09-2012, 2:10 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Cardinal Sin
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2006
                          • 897

                          FLETC. *shudder, twitch, twitch*. I don't think I've fully recovered, lol.
                          "Apathy is the glove into which evil slips its hand." -Bodie Thoene

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                          • #14
                            Garand1911
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 1443

                            join any federal agency, get your time started, then jump to where you want to go later on, and have experience under your belt.
                            of course you have to go through "flee-tac" again.
                            "I saved your life, AND brought you pizza" -- Me

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                            • #15
                              Axewound
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 1260

                              Oh god, anywhere but Artesia.
                              Peace through superior firepower.

                              liberals want my guns and conservatives want my porn, im not willing to part with either

                              A man is a man his whole life, a woman is a woman until she becomes your wife.
                              -Al Bundy

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