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  • bigkyle72
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 612

    POST certificate

    Do any one know if the POST certificate that we earn in California works in other state or is there a link that says if so and what states they are valid in.
  • #2
    P5Ret
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2010
    • 6374

    I had a couple friends take out of state jobs in Nevada and Washington. They accepted the basic requirements but they still had to take a skills assessment and do a couple weeks book work before they were good to go. They were both laterals,an entry level with just an academy completion certificate may be a different story.

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    • #3
      BigDogatPlay
      Calguns Addict
      • Jun 2007
      • 7362

      In many states the standard as similar to out of state officers coming to California for employment. Typically certification + recent sworn employment is accepted and the officer must then complete a waiver course. Here in California that waiver course is also used by those who've been out of the business/academy for a while to freshen their certifications. When I re-certified in the late 1990's it was only a three week course but it's grown since then. It amounts to a PC832 course, along with legal and evidence updates, perishable skills refreshers (firearms, DT, PMA, etc), and scenario. I believe there is a PT component to the California course now, that there didn't use to be. There is a summary examination at the end of the course similar to the exit exam in a basic academy.

      California POST certification will open doors in a lot of states as our training standards are still higher than many / most states. Each state has it's own standards, but pretty much all of them have a waiver process for out of state laterals. If there is a particular state you are interested in, you would want to check that particular state's regulations.

      Here is Arizona's standard as an example.
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      • #4
        kermit315
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2007
        • 5928

        How many hours is the academy in CA? I know ours here in Florida is 770, and Illinois is 400.

        Just curious.

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        • #5
          castelle
          Junior Member
          • May 2010
          • 96

          I think my academy in the bay area was somwhere around 900 hours total. I think there may be some minor differences in total hours depending on department or location but don't quote me on that.

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          • #6
            strokerace
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 42

            the POST basic academy in california is 880 hours last i heard but it may be up to 888 now.

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            • #7
              Matt1984
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1078

              I graduated one last year I think it was 889 hours.
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              • #8
                HisOwnHero
                Junior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 63

                Originally posted by bigkyle72
                Do any one know if the POST certificate that we earn in California works in other state or is there a link that says if so and what states they are valid in.
                Washington State will allow out of state lateral transfers. You must complete an "equivalency academy" which is basically a once a week online training course for I believe 9 weeks in conjunction with while your in FTO phase. Upon completion, you do some in person scenario training and are all good to go.

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                • #9
                  Notorious
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4695

                  I thought the POST basic requirement was 664 hours minimum to meet POST but most academies exceed it by adding non-POST material like courtroom demeanor and extra report writing. I think I had 720 hours when I got done.
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                  • #10
                    mixicus
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 624

                    Per the CA POST website, the minimum is 664 hours for a full time basic academy. The modular format, minimum is 730 hours (allows for redundant instruction).

                    Many academies exceed those numbers. Orange County Sheriff Academy is closer to 1000 hours.

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                    • #11
                      wrestlingnrj
                      Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 451

                      I went through the Goldenwest academy and ours was 1100 hours and I know they want to bump it up another 80.

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                      • #12
                        Ron-Solo
                        In Memoriam
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 8581

                        It varies by state
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                        • #13
                          bigkyle72
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 612

                          Thanks for all the responses guys! Big help.

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                          • #14
                            bigkyle72
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 612

                            Thanks for all the responses guys! Big help.

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                            • #15
                              NineteenElev3n
                              Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 427

                              My academy was minimum 880 hours.

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