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  • King of Lion Kings
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 3

    Juvenile Records and Gun Purchase?

  • #2
    45DAVID1
    Banned
    • Oct 2007
    • 12145

    Do it.

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    • #3
      hermosabeach
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2009
      • 19365

      In the securities industry everyone is fingerprinted and the FBI runs the prints.

      We have had many candidates "Forget" about there juvie arrest records that were sealed.

      More and more old stuff that was on paper appears to be going electronic.

      If you are a different person, then you should really consider the 5-10k cost and seek the expungement.
      Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

      Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

      Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

      Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
      (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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      • #4
        BigDogatPlay
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2007
        • 7362

        Expungement and seal is used in some cases where a juvenile offender has done what they needed to do and can move into adult life with a 'clean slate'. In most instances / inquiries the expunged and sealed records cannot be accessed. For things like law enforcement backgrounds, security clearances and certain professional licenses they can and will be probed for and can be accessed.

        Charged with or adjudicated by a juvenile court for? Arrests by themselves are not disqualifying for firearms transfer or possession. Adult convictions and juvenile adjudications count. Cultivation of marijuana is a felony, if you had been adjudicated for it then CADoJ would not have released the hold on your DROS. My other question is how long ago was it and did you complete diversion or probation? It might be that there was still probation terms hanging out in your record.

        Sealing of juvenile records is not automatic at all. And all are reportable to CADoJ, sealed or not. Sealing of the record and expungement just hide the record, they do not "do a Serv Pro" and make it like it never happened.

        It might be worthwhile to contact the court clerk's office, or the county probation department, to determine what you were actually adjudicated for and what they show as the status on your case. If all you were adjudicated was simple possession of marijuana I wouldn't bother with chasing after an expungement and seal.
        -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

        Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

        Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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        • #5
          King of Lion Kings
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 3

          Originally posted by hermosabeach
          In the securities industry everyone is fingerprinted and the FBI runs the prints.

          We have had many candidates "Forget" about there juvie arrest records that were sealed.

          More and more old stuff that was on paper appears to be going electronic.

          If you are a different person, then you should really consider the 5-10k cost and seek the expungement.
          I know someone that got 1 or 2 felonies expunged and it was nowhere near that cost; I'll have to ask.

          Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
          Expungement and seal is used in some cases where a juvenile offender has done what they needed to do and can move into adult life with a 'clean slate'. In most instances / inquiries the expunged and sealed records cannot be accessed. For things like law enforcement backgrounds, security clearances and certain professional licenses they can and will be probed for and can be accessed.

          Charged with or adjudicated by a juvenile court for? Arrests by themselves are not disqualifying for firearms transfer or possession. Adult convictions and juvenile adjudications count. Cultivation of marijuana is a felony, if you had been adjudicated for it then CADoJ would not have released the hold on your DROS. My other question is how long ago was it and did you complete diversion or probation? It might be that there was still probation terms hanging out in your record.

          Sealing of juvenile records is not automatic at all. And all are reportable to CADoJ, sealed or not. Sealing of the record and expungement just hide the record, they do not "do a Serv Pro" and make it like it never happened.


          It might be worthwhile to contact the court clerk's office, or the county probation department, to determine what you were actually adjudicated for and what they show as the status on your case. If all you were adjudicated was simple possession of marijuana I wouldn't bother with chasing after an expungement and seal.
          The actual charge was for possession only, and I did have to go to court for it. I was told that I would not be charged with cultivation because the seedlings could not be technically identified because they were just propagating. However, cultivation would be noted in the event that I did the same thing down the line, it could be used against me as another charge (or something along those lines).

          I did have to compete an informal probationary period and did have to take a drug counseling classes, and for the record, this was over 14 years ago when I was 13 (yes, I was trying to a “fast’ life, stupid fast life).

          There has to be something in the file for the CADOJ to hold it the first time, until I called; perhaps they wanted to gauge what kind of person I was (how I would react) over the phone??? It really is unsettling to have something like this lurking in the background so I’d rather have it “hidden” than not.

          I do not work in the securities industry, nor do I see myself in the near future (I work IT and real estate), but I’d still like to look into this.

          As you suggested, I will start with the county and see where it goes from there.

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          • #6
            BigDogatPlay
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2007
            • 7362

            A large and growing number of private sector companies, particularly in tech, are doing pretty extensive backgrounds on prospective employees, for what it's worth. And I know that the state real estate board does a background on licensees but since I am personally aware of a previously deported criminal illegal immigrant who is licensed and active as a real estate agent in California under the same name they were deported under, I am left to guess that the board isn't doing anything more than a very cursory examination.

            As you suggested, I will start with the county and see where it goes from there.
            And good luck with your quest... honestly.
            -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

            Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

            Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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            • #7
              King of Lion Kings
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 3

              Originally posted by BigDogatPlay
              A large and growing number of private sector companies, particularly in tech, are doing pretty extensive backgrounds on prospective employees, for what it's worth. And I know that the state real estate board does a background on licensees but since I am personally aware of a previously deported criminal illegal immigrant who is licensed and active as a real estate agent in California under the same name they were deported under, I am left to guess that the board isn't doing anything more than a very cursory examination.



              And good luck with your quest... honestly.

              Do these include juvenile record checks with regards to real estate boards?

              EDIT: Just read the last part, so perhaps not.


              Thank you, I will require all the luck I can get.

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