Bath Salts

[yzErnie]

The properties of the bath salt and/or spice combination will not be discovered on a standard 6 panel drug screen. Our lab says they have no idea when they will have a test to discover the content of the bath salts because they really have no idea what is in it. The contents also vary from maker to maker.

[Ron-Solo]

My son in law is a police officer in Arizona and he has been seeing it for a while. The symptoms he describes are similar to those of PCP suspects, or "Dusters" as they used to be called. I experienced many suspects on PCP during the 70's and 80's. Very scary stuff.

[thrasherfox]

My son who works for a department down south (dont want to be specific dont know if anything is still pending) but they came across a guy on the bath salts, he said it took 10 pretty good size officers to take the guy down.

I really hope I dont run into someone on this crap.

[DaveInOroValley]

I guess it shouldn't surprise anyone the things that people will ingest/snort/shoot/ just to have a good time, but the bath salt problem is way out of control and people that just want a soothing product to place in their bath are frowned upon as a common junkie.

[Spyder]

How many of you guys are familiar with Erowid.com? It's a GREAT resource for drug knowledge, and is actually fairly unbiased. User accounts are always an interesting read, and can give you a good idea of what is potentially going on in the minds of people who are using various substances.

[ihorn]

How many of you guys are familiar with Erowid.com? It's a GREAT resource for drug knowledge, and is actually fairly unbiased. User accounts are always an interesting read, and can give you a good idea of what is potentially going on in the minds of people who are using various substances.

Its actually erowid.org not com.

I dont want to intrude into Police business, but do you guys monitor websites that deal with this stuff? If you dont maybe you guys should be. You would find out about a lot of things before they really come out into the public light.

[Dee_Dub]

I had a dealing with a guy a couple of days ago that possibly used bath salts.... We had a MA for a possible seizure. The guy was altered but didnt really appear to just have a seizure. He some what followed commands with a bit of bizarre behavior. I had him sit on the couch, i started to "medically evaluate" and he started to bite the pulse ox off his finger.... i told him stop that. He continued. He clinched his fist, next thing he was on the ground. He was very perfuse and hard to get ahold of. He had two big FF on top of him and he was still tossing us around. DIdnt seem to have a tolerance for pain. The guy was about a 170 6'1. We called for SO but we got him controlled prior. luckily his gangster friend didnt try to get down as well. I didnt follow up but im bettin this guy was on some bath salts or PCP. Never fought like that with a patient.

[Mr.1904]

The one person i had the unfortunate time of being around on bath salts was acting like he was high on meth.

[Roccobro]

Just FYI:

http://healthland.time.com/2012/06/27/the-cannabis-cannibal-miami-face-eater-didnt-take-bath-salts/

Apparently no 'bath-salts' found in the Florida face-eater. And while the munchie is a common side effect of marijuanna I think we can all agree that a compulsion to chew on someone's face is not a common reaction to pot by any stretch of the imagination.

So where the initial report came from, who knows. As always I think we're quick to jump on such outrageously abberant behavior as being caused by some sort of drug or substance because it's hard to accept that crazy people can just be crazy and do crazy things completely on their own.

Like YZ says, there is so many variations of the stuff that labs are scrambling to try and even determine the compounds- let alone to classify them for new test protocols.

IME it takes a whole lot more than "just plain crazy" to have their dead bodies core temp to still measure over 110 degrees for the coroner (miami "zombie" guy was this way).

Justin

[Bobby Hated]

Like YZ says, there is so many variations of the stuff that labs are scrambling to try and even determine the compounds- let alone to classify them for new test protocols.

IME it takes a whole lot more than "just plain crazy" to have their dead bodies core temp to still measure over 110 degrees for the coroner (miami "zombie" guy was this way).

Justin

but the toxicology report only found pot in his system. so whats the explanation then?

[Roccobro]

but the toxicology report only found pot in his system. so whats the explanation then?

When there are literally 10's of thousands of variations of the compound, you think it's possible L.E. or other blood labs don't have a test for it yet?

Looks like a duck, smokes dope like a duck, and acts like a bath salt duck, chances are it's a duck on something (not just "crazy"). It wasn't the pot that turned him into a zombie, and it wasn't pot that caused all my personal experience dopers to act that way either.

Justin

[kermit315]

The properties of the bath salt and/or spice combination will not be discovered on a standard 6 panel drug screen. Our lab says they have no idea when they will have a test to discover the content of the bath salts because they really have no idea what is in it. The contents also vary from maker to maker.

The Navy can test for spice.....for now. Not sure on the science behind it, but we have already gotten back hot hits and separated the individuals involved.

As far as spice/bath salts, I am pretty sure a medical assist we got called out to last time I rode was spice.

Havent seen bath salts yet.....I just cant wait.

[Roccobro]

And another zombie act in the name of bath salts.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_sarasota_manatee/Latest-zombie-eating-attack-man-under-the-influence-gets-naked-bites-off-chunk-of-mans-arm-