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My son is coming to visit, we shoot a ton when he is here. He happens to have the JUDGE. .45 Colt. .454 Cas and .410 as most know. I understand this revolver is a no no to own in California. Can he bring it and shoot since he lives out of state or is this a felony?
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It's not legal for anybody (without the proper licensing or tax stamp) to possess in CA. Sorry, but you'll have to visit him to shoot a Judge pistol with your son.Last edited by Turo; 05-23-2012, 7:22 PM."The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
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It is considered a short Barreled shotgun in CA. Yes, I looked into getting one.
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If you love your son, you would not let him come inside CA borders.I like guns
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The right answers are spread through out the thread but to summarize:
* A Judge revolver is considered a short barreled shotgun under California law. Possession of one inside California would be chargeable as a felony, regardless of legality in the son's home state.
* There is no law enforcement exemption for ownership, and I am not entirely sure LEOSA would protect an out of state LEO. Need to dig a bit deeper on that.
* A Judge that has been modified by an FFL 07 / SOT and papered with BATFE can be transferred / possessed in California as an AOW.
Best advice.... leave the gun at home.
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FWIW OC Armory had one with a foregrip that could be owned in CA pending approval of your BATF AOW/CA handgun DROS paperwork."Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022
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I instruct it if you shoot it.Comment
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Buy the circuit judge, its the neutered CA version with an 18 inch barrel and stock. Still sweet and love mine.Comment
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If one applied People v. Peterson, perhaps. But since it's an Illinois state court ruling, and binding only on the judicial district within which it was issued, I wouldn't rely on it here in California. California makes no exception for LEO private possession of an SBS, and I wouldn't want to be the test case.
That ruling does, certainly, open a lot of doors though. -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun
Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.
Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James MadisonComment
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I regularly bring SBRs into California under LEOSA, covers everything besides MGs, DDs, Suppresors. Not **** California law can do about it. A judge is only a SBS in the eyes of Cali, not in the eyes of the Feds. Even if it was a SBS in the eyes of the Feds it is still legal to bring across with the proper fed paperwork, which the will approve to bring a SBR/SBS into Cali no problem.
Note: LEOSA will not cover the OP to shoot it if he is not a LEO.Last edited by hitman13; 05-28-2012, 4:32 AM.Comment
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Does anyone know of a conviction for possession of a Judge? A deputy at my agency arrested a man in December for several offenses to include possession of a SBS, a Judge. The DDA did not file on the SBS charge, only the reckless discharge of a firearm and criminal threats. He "allegedly" shot a round into the air and told two trespassing juveniles he would shoot them if they did not leave his property. The prelim was yesterday and the magistrate (didn't wanna say judge again) found sufficient evidence to proceed on the filed charges.Comment
Best advice EVER!!!! 
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