felony

[ummmmmm456]

i have a classmate ask me, if he was convicted of a juvenile felony that was deemed closed, can he purchase a firearm? i don't know how to answer him. can anyone give me an answer. thank you.

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[Ron-Solo]

Good chance that he is prohibited. He needs to submit this form o DOJ for official answers.

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/firearms/forms/pfecapp.pdf?

[ummmmmm456]

mr. ron solo, you remind me again and again why i love calguns. a short sweet answer which i would have never thought of. thank you very much sir.

[explorerdude]

I know some guys have had their juvey felonies exponged and are still prohibited.
*not LEO

[ummmmmm456]

so, its just one of those things that if they had a previous history and its deemed sealed it still counts as them not being able to purchase a firearm.... i guess thats the way it is. thank you very much explorerdude. i kinda have been reading the same thing.

[troysland]

If he doesn't mind paying I think $19 at any gunshop, they can do a doj check to see if he's eligible. My brother went this route to see if his indiscretions as a minor would haunt him as an adult. Needless to say, he now has an Arsenal to outfit a small army. I think he got his eligibility checked out at Turners.

[explorerdude]

I didnt know dealers did checks unless they run a DROS. I think Troysland is talking about a form found on the DOJ website.

[ummmmmm456]

nice..... so its just one of those things i guess that depends on the crime and circumstances probably. only reason i'm bringing it up is i at least have the resources (the fine members of calguns) to steer him in the right direction. i wouldn't want him to get anything illegal or have to lie on a DROS. i'd rather use the advice you guys give to have at least a proper way to deal with the situation. thanks again guys. i appreciate it.

[Notorious]

Sealed doesn't mean anything other than preventing certain parties from discovering it. It has nothing to do with wiping away the factual existence of what happened.

It's like having a confidential marriage license. Just because others can't look up your marriage license doesn't mean you aren't married.

[WTSGDYBBR]

A juvenile felony will not apply . He could have got it sealed . From what i could remember there was a time limit to do so. He can also have got it expunged it would have been removed from the state system but not federal . The juvenile are only held so long. If he is some way prohibited it would be smart for hem to go to court request to get the felony dropped to a misdemeanor then expunge it. If your buddy is in the orange county area . I have a lawyer that can get it done depending on how man convictions he had. A lawyer charges from 500-600 to expunged it. You can try to do it your self for 200-300.

[Notorious]

Some misdemeanors still carry a 10 year prohibition against firearm possession so even if you get it reduced per PC17(b) and then expunged it with a PC1203.4 motion, you would still not be able to possess firearms until that time is up.

From what I recall, it has to be a crime of violence like battery or misdemeanor manslaughter or something like that for the 10 year prohibition to kick in. Without knowing what your friend has on his record, I suggest he call an attorney to make sure.

[ummmmmm456]

thanks guys. i personally don't know what he did. regardless, he still got in some stupid trouble. thanks for following up with that lawyer, if he is interested in getting a lawyer for it i'll see i make it your way and ask for advice, we are in the san diego area. thanks again for the advice, i appreciate it.