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  • NuGunner
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 705

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    Last edited by NuGunner; 05-10-2016, 11:09 AM.
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    tanksoldier
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 207

    If your CAMPSITE is considered your "home" WRT firearms carry in California, your front yard certainly should be.
    "I am a Soldier. I fight were I'm told and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr.

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    • #3
      NuGunner
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 705

      Originally posted by tanksoldier
      If your CAMPSITE is considered your "home" WRT firearms carry in California, your front yard certainly should be.
      Logically speaking, I agree. I think its another bad appellate decision along with a more recent one made in 2009 overturning search of a vehicle incident to arrest.

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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44650

        What, pray tell, is 'the forum' that you 'go over to'?

        FAQ - see the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Un...oncealed_Carry
        ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        • #5
          BigDogatPlay
          Calguns Addict
          • Jun 2007
          • 7362

          Originally posted by Librarian
          What, pray tell, is 'the forum' that you 'go over to'?
          I think the OP is referring to this thread in 2A.

          A property owner can carry concealed and loaded on his own property or place of business... however I believe the courts are tailoring their opinions around the question of public access.

          If I am in a store I own, or my house for that matter, I can physically control the access by locking the door. The parking lot for my store, if unfenced and open to the public, even though it's my property cannot be controlled in the same way. It is a common area open to the public.

          If you extend that to the apartment complex scenario the grounds are a common area open to the public (residents and their guests). Using the logic above the property owner has no exemption to concealed carry, even though it's his real property, and needs to have an LTC if he wants to carry outside his own business office or residence.

          My $0.02....

          If the property owner employs a manager or agent, as the other thread seems to indicate, that manager or agent would need an LTC to carry concealed in the common areas. If he is carrying openly, loaded or unloaded, in the common areas my opinion is that he is committing a crime unless he has a security guard license and firearms permit and is meeting all the requirements for a security guard. The property owner would likely be a lot better served by hiring a security company to patrol the grounds.
          Last edited by BigDogatPlay; 04-28-2012, 9:07 AM.
          -- Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun

          Not a lawyer, just a former LEO proud to have served.

          Americans have the right and advantage of being armed - unlike the citizens of other countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. -- James Madison

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          • #6
            NuGunner
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 705

            I was referring to the 2A forum. Thanks for the reference Librarian. Had a good read.
            Last edited by NuGunner; 04-29-2012, 7:34 AM.

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