Thank You

[94bigtow]

Thank you to the sonoma county sherriffs dept. and the ca. highway patrol . I was in sonoma county for easter to see my daughter and her boyfriend . I live in Oroville ca. and have my ccw. As we were driving north on 101 in the early afternoon we were pulled over due to no front lic. plate on my daughters boy friends truck on our way to the ukiah range. All of us in the truck informed the sherriff we had firearms inside and I informed him I had my ccw. We were treated very good by both agencys and were on our way in less than 1 hour. Again thanks for the great work you do ps no ticket for the front plate only a warning

[CalCop]

why did it take an hour?

[94bigtow]

thank you

I think it took about 1 hour due to the fact we had about 7 or 8 guns . They must have had to check all the serial numbers and my ccw as well. I understand and was not upset about the delay. We were all treated with respect and we respected the officers as well

[CalCop]

I think it took about 1 hour due to the fact we had about 7 or 8 guns. They must have had to check all the serial numbers

I'm glad you were satisfied with your contact. Unless there are facts you have not shared, I personally feel they wasted your time by checking all your serial numbers, that does not seem reasonable.

[Ron-Solo]

As a retired LEO, I agree that an hour seems too long. With today's technology, you could run 10 guns, 4 people, and verify a CCW in less than 15 minutes. The only reason I could see it taking any longer would be if there were some "near misses" in the databases that might raise the concern of a stolen or wanted item. LEOs will know what I mean about the near misses. They can take a while to sort out sometimes.

[oddjob]

As a retired LEO an hour does seem long to me as well. I agree with what Ron Solo said. It was probably near miss/duplicate serial numbers. Then dispatch/records has to cross check the numbers with the make and models. Thats assuming nothing else (a priority call/request) was thrown into the mix. Then one has to assume the support staff knew what they were doing (another story seasoned officers know). The mobile terminal unit (fancy word for car computer) may have been down too.

I'm glad all went well for you.

[TRICKSTER]

As a retired LEO an hour does seem long to me as well. I agree with what Ron Solo said. It was probably near miss/duplicate serial numbers. Then dispatch/records has to cross check the numbers with the make and models. Thats assuming nothing else (a priority call/request) was thrown into the mix. Then one has to assume the support staff knew what they were doing (another story seasoned officers know). The mobile terminal unit (fancy word for car computer) may have been down too.

I'm glad all went well for you.

Huh, the "support staff" never make mistakes when running people or property and they are alway prompt in giving officers the requested information.

[Notorious]

An hour is too long without extenuating circumstances. If I am detaining someone for an hour for something... they are most likely getting arrested or at least field released on a cite.

Here's the other question... did you give consent to run the firearms in your possession?

[94bigtow]

thank you

We did give consent to enter the vehicle ,they took out the guns and ran them . The one thing that I wondered about was the fact that they took my wallet with cash in it and said I will get it back when they were done ,they did return my wallet before we left .Please note I am 60 years old my daughter is 33 and we are both clean cut decent people no tats etc. so in my opinion we did not fit the profile of bums or tough guys

[CalCop]

Based on the information you provided, IMHO the search was unnecessary, and if confronted with a similar situation in the future, I don't think you should give consent.

It is like if you declared you had brownies in the vehicle, and this cop inspected them for half an hour to determine if they were marijuana brownies.

Or, it is like if this cop saw a binder and decided to read through the binder to determine if you made PC422 threats against anyone...it seems to me to be that absurd.

What reason did you give the officer to believe your weapons were illegal? Was this a fishing expedition?

Unless he had cause to believe you were involved in illegal activity, the mere fact you had guns in the vehicle should not have interested him enough to conduct a search.

[Notorious]

Exactly my point.