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  • #16
    Anchors
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 5940

    [I'm not LEO]

    It is normal to see them drawn at a "low-ready". I've seen it before.
    I was thinking about applying for one of those jobs when I worked for a retailer that used them and got to talking with the guards on a daily basis.
    I thought the pay would be good, but it wasn't much better than my retail job at the time. I was researching it and in a lot of the robberies someone would just casually walk up behind the guard and shoot him in the head or something to that effect. Not worth the risk, in my opinion.

    Also, now that you're into guns and paying more attention to stuff like that, you'll start noticing a lot more people with bulges around their waists, pocket knives, etc. It can be kind of crazy what you see when you start to look closer at people and not just spotting weapons haha

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    • #17
      mkkeele
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 728

      At my company most of the guys leave their holsters unbuttoned. I haven't seen any of our guys have the gun in their hand while doing a run though. I personally use the Blackhawk CQB holster, so I don't even have a hood on mine.
      "This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation had full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future." - Adolf Hitler

      "Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."
      - Unknown

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      • #18
        PositiveInfluence
        Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 463

        I got *****ed at by one of them at one of the sites my company services. One of their guys came in and went to the back with the safe and did his business. I was standing near some of the registers with my arms resting just above my belt, my right hand was rear the grip of my sidearm. He comes out and with the loudest most stern voice he could muster tells me "Better keep your hand off that gun when I am in here rent-a-cop!".

        They go through the same courses as any regular guard(i.e. Guard Card, Exposed firearm permit, OC/Baton). Though sometimes they like to think they are God's in their trucks.

        I would never want their job, I get paid more than them anyways!
        Escaped to FREE AMERICA: 09/01/2013

        Deputy Vu Nguyen #1427 EOW 12/19/07

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        • #19
          Notorious
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 4695

          Originally posted by PositiveInfluence
          I got *****ed at by one of them at one of the sites my company services. One of their guys came in and went to the back with the safe and did his business. I was standing near some of the registers with my arms resting just above my belt, my right hand was rear the grip of my sidearm. He comes out and with the loudest most stern voice he could muster tells me "Better keep your hand off that gun when I am in here rent-a-cop!".

          They go through the same courses as any regular guard(i.e. Guard Card, Exposed firearm permit, OC/Baton). Though sometimes they like to think they are God's in their trucks.

          I would never want their job, I get paid more than them anyways!
          Wow... a truck guard yelling at a security guard? Priceless. Hope you had a comeback and tell him to better keep his hands off his gun while on YOUR premises!
          I like guns

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          • #20
            anthonyca
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2008
            • 6316

            I was working in San Francisco and two armoured car guards were walking back to the truck and I was in there path. The first thing that came to my mind was to get the heck away from them incase they were robbed.

            One time I walked into a room while holding an inferred thermometer with a laser and I pointed it up at an air conditioning supply register. An armoured car guard who was in the room talking started to un holster and just froze as our eyes met. The guy looked like he had just seen satan and I don't blame him. He thought I had a gun and was robbing him.

            That is one job I would never want. $13 an hour? F that!
            https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

            Originally posted by Wherryj
            I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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            • #21
              PositiveInfluence
              Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 463

              Originally posted by Notorious
              Wow... a truck guard yelling at a security guard? Priceless. Hope you had a comeback and tell him to better keep his hands off his gun while on YOUR premises!
              Well the manager of the property was standing no more than 5ft from me when this happened. He called the supervisor of the guard and *****ed him out for 10 or so minutes. Last I heard that guy no longer works there.
              Escaped to FREE AMERICA: 09/01/2013

              Deputy Vu Nguyen #1427 EOW 12/19/07

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              • #22
                oddjob
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2003
                • 2397

                I remember years ago in Stockton at an old Gemco store two guards were shot & killed inside the store. The suspects just walked behind them and shot the guards in the head and walked off with the money.

                Notorious is correct about suspects robbing an armored car. They do have a plan and thats what makes the suspects more dangerous.

                The great Bill Jordan said he felt LEO holsters should always be unsnapped. They should only be snapped when the LEO knew a gun was not needed.

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                • #23
                  Notorious
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 4695

                  Good. Karma is a *****.
                  I like guns

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                  • #24
                    Fspeed
                    Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 320

                    Not an LEO
                    If I saw one of those guys unbuttoned I'd bet on incompetence first. I know the job can be deadly, but when you can walk into the bank and hand them a note-why are you going to go after someone with a gun?

                    Most of these guys are mall ninjas or bozos who figured it was easy work. I'm not sure which is worse, the guys w/their pants tucked into their boots or the guys who look like their gun is going to make their belt break as they walk.

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                    • #25
                      ak_in_ca
                      Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 354

                      SO MUCH WTF!!! I would say I would have to find something in the penal code to arrest one of those guys for if they are holding a loaded weapon just to walk into a store to do their pickup! Unsnapped fine, but holding a loaded weapon in their hand with no visible threat in a public area STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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                      • #26
                        Andy Taylor
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1367

                        Originally posted by PositiveInfluence
                        I got *****ed at by one of them at one of the sites my company services. One of their guys came in and went to the back with the safe and did his business. I was standing near some of the registers with my arms resting just above my belt, my right hand was rear the grip of my sidearm. He comes out and with the loudest most stern voice he could muster tells me "Better keep your hand off that gun when I am in here rent-a-cop!".

                        They go through the same courses as any regular guard(i.e. Guard Card, Exposed firearm permit, OC/Baton). Though sometimes they like to think they are God's in their trucks.

                        I would never want their job, I get paid more than them anyways!
                        WOW! I was chief of security at a facility that had armoured car service do pick-ups twice a week. If any of those armoured car guys had ever spoken to me, or my officers like that (I would have had it on video and audio form the surveillence system) they would no longer be making pick ups at my facility.
                        We always had a good working relationship with them though. One time a moron tried to mess with one of them as he was making his pick-up. I quickly interviened and got the moron out of there, before the guard drew on him. I knew the moron, was just that, a local idiot, and not a robber, or part of a larger plan. No way for the gurad to know. I got a thank you from the guard the next day, and one from the armoured company a few days later.

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